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Old 22-03-2011
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I have a badger crescendo(175), but I cannot get it right for some fine/detailed work. Even laying down a simple shadow always results in just a to big spot...

I am using faskolor paint and set the compressor at around 40 psi.
Have already tried the included needles/nozzles, but the difference is not really noticable.

From what I have read/heard this set would not be suited for any fine work.
Is this correct?

What airbrush set does one suggest for some fine work?
I'll be mainly painting 1/10 ofroad shells.

thanks!
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Old 22-03-2011
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Not sure about the one your using but I have a Iwata HP-CS thats work brilliant, would recommend one any day!!

The Iwata revolution looks pretty good as well though, the gravity fed one not bottle feed.
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It depends what you're doing when you say fine line stuff. You mentioned a shadow which to be honest you don't need a fine line for.

The needle and nozzle combo's you have for your badger should be marked in some way so as to show what they are, maybe F for fine and M for Medium ?

I have a couple of Iwata's, the HP-B is too fine for Faskolor, has a 0.23mm tip, then I have a medium one on a bigger brush which is a 0.35, this is okay for Faskolor but you'd probably get a better flow and therefore more control out of a 0.5 tip ! So to save buying yourself a new airbrush you could look around for a different tip set up for the one you have ?

Shadows and the like are all about control, you just need to let the airbrush do it for you though, so as long as you can pull a steady consistent line you should be okay whatever size tip you have unless it's clogging ? Practice Practice Practice

Try thinning the paint down a touch ( Auto Air Reducer works well ), also I use the window tint colour for shadows, it's thinner and is transparent. You can turn the pressure down more so you can go slower and control your line better.

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Hi there I’m also looking for an air brush and am looking at the Iwata. Could anyone tell be the best place buy liquid mask, making stencils and if possible what is the best paint to use and where to buy it. Sorry to hijack the Thread but would love some advice!
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Hi there I’m also looking for an air brush and am looking at the Iwata. Could anyone tell be the best place buy liquid mask, making stencils and if possible what is the best paint to use and where to buy it. Sorry to hijack the Thread but would love some advice!
Eyup fella

If you're after an iwata airbrush check out The Airbrush Co, they carry the range & have other manufacturers ranges too...

For anything paint related, paint, LM, stencils etc give Jon Miller (RCS) a shout
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Hi,

I have a badger crescendo(175), but I cannot get it right for some fine/detailed work. Even laying down a simple shadow always results in just a to big spot...

I am using faskolor paint and set the compressor at around 40 psi.
Have already tried the included needles/nozzles, but the difference is not really noticable.

From what I have read/heard this set would not be suited for any fine work.
Is this correct?

What airbrush set does one suggest for some fine work?
I'll be mainly painting 1/10 ofroad shells.

thanks!
You will have to reduce the paint, that is if you're spraying it straight out the bottle. It's been mentioned that the auto air reducer will do the trick, after it's reduced you should be able to spray at a lower PSI.

I use a Cresendo and mainly use solvent based gear ie Pactra which is thinner in consistency than water based paint. I usually reduce using thinner, 2 parts paint to 1 part thinner, and there are a lot of guys who post their work on here who have a lot of experience using water based paints who could point you in the right direction when it comes to the mixing.

Hope this helps
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Consistency of paint is always a tricky one, you need to play about with it, it's sort of a learnt thing and also a lot to do with personal preference. If it's thin and you spray low pressure it will be okay but if it's too thin and you're pressure is too high it will spider everywhere. Likewise if you have it thick and the pressure is too low it will splatter. You really need to play about with it. Ideally about the consistency of Milk. So imagine you'd spilt some milk on a coloured surface, you can just see the colour through it, about like that. Best thing to do is experiment. The 2:1 ration is always a good starting point. I don't measure anything though, just by eye. When you've been doing it a while you can normally tell what's going to work.

Everythingairbrush.com are also good stockist. They do cheap iwata copies and if you're just using waterbased are good enough for block colours and fades. If you want to move onto doing proper artwork and other custom painting I'd get the Iwata, if it's just shells you could get the cheaper one and save yourself a lot of money.
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Premiair G35 is as good as anything else that I've used and only £40
It has been given alot of good reviews!
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Didn't Terry review that in RRCi ?

It's a fair point, Iwata's are brilliant but there are plenty more out there !
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Thanks a lot for all the tips guys! It's really appreciated.
I will certainly try thinning the paint and lower the pressure a bit.
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IS there anyone who does workshops? There is a guy on you tube that show's techniques but it would be nice to be shown and then have a go with an expert baby sitter

What do you think.
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jo taylor does workshops I think still, Simon Murray used too, Brian Curtis ( Beej used to - if you can find him ), plenty out there if you look.

You can probably learn off you tube or buying a dvd though. I learnt from a book before I did it at college, the rest was sort of self taught, if you do it enough you learn. Practice on the inside of coke bottles if you want to replicate spraying on shells or just practice on paper / line board ( available from art shops ), practice practice practice though !
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Cool advice thank you
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