how much CR2 squat???

[Legacy555]

Hi all,

I flipped my rear pivot to reverse the built in anti-squat and the car now has much more rear traction coming out of slow tight corners. This is not news....

what I wanted to know is if anyone has used 1 wedge/washer under the flipped pivot to reduce the squat closer to 0 degrees? and if so, was it better again?

[V-Rossi]

You flipped over the 2° block? Not a very good idea as you will get pro-squat as a result.

I always use a 2° block with a 0,5mm washer under the rear screws to make it 1°.

[Legacy555]

I'll try it, thanks

[ashleyb4]

If you flip the rear pivot block use the 0 degree block and put a washer under the front to make it 1 degree.

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[tony12795]

What the team generally do is flip the 2 degree pivot block over and dremal the pips off to make the block 0. Then add .030” (.030” = 1 degree) washers under the front screws.

Some of the team run 0, some run 2 others run 4. I run 2.5 AS

(Don't forget all the CR rear pivot blocks are 3 degree toe in)

Tony

[Legacy555]

Originally Posted by tony12795

What the team generally do is flip the 2 degree pivot block over and dremal the pips off to make the block 0. Then add .030” (.030” = 1 degree) washers under the front screws.

Some of the team run 0, some run 2 others run 4. I run 2.5 AS

(Don't forget all the CR rear pivot blocks are 3 degree toe in)

Tony

Thanks Tony, good explaination - however I'm having trouble getting my head around the dremelling from 2 degrees to 0.

If you flip the 2 degree antisquat pivot and dremel off the four pips, the pivot is now still 2 degrees, but prosquat. I think I'm right in saying (and please correct me if I'm wrong), that to adjust it to 0 degrees you would have to dremel alot more than the pips. You would have to tapper the whole inner section of the pivot - thicker at the front than the rear -and this would be a painful job to do accurately. Otherwise, adding a washer to the front mounting screws will create 1 degrees prosquat.

Please excude my crude diagram.

Have I got it all wrong?

[V-Rossi]

Yes that is correct. The easiest way is to use a 0° block with the included anti-squat washers under the front screws to make it 1°, or a 2° block with the washers under the rear screws. If you want to have 1° of anti-squat of course.
I really don't see the point of flipping the block.

Btw: 0,1mm = 0,2 degree anti-squat difference, in case you want something in between 0° and 1°

[tony12795]

I cannot see an advantage in flipping the block in Belgium too! Going from the last Belgium GP meeting I went too, you would not really need it.

The reason we flip it in the UK is to make the car go better on power though rough train and get more droop. Saying that Andy Griffiths never flipped his last year and he was in the top 20. I think he was in the A final at Stotfold too.

Tony

[Legacy555]

I can see now what I have to do. Get a 0 degree pivot, flip it - to raise the pivot point and increase droop - and put one washer under the front of the block increasr the anti-squat to 1 degree.

This should allow for more weight transfer to the rear under power and should improve stability on rougher ground.

Spot on biy, thanks very much for all the info

[GRIFF55]

Tony is right, mine still isn't flipped. Std! I cant see the point as the car handles bumps superbly as it is and i love the way it drives.
Either way, a great car!