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Hi all,

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, i did a search and looked through posts but couldn't find anything.

I went to my 1st Buggy race today at Bury. Everyone was friendly and helpful and I met a few guys i see at my other local track where we race touring cars and buggies.



There where only 10 racers, so we where split into two sets of 5. The first race was going well and i managed to nail the jumps a lot better than last weeks practice run, and it got better each race. Had a few teething issues, my overclocked 7.2v servo wire came off so lost steering but luckily just after the line. Second race i won but again just after the line my pinion fell off :-s. I have found the hop up pinion set (13t, 14t, 15t) are a little longer than the stock ones and the grub screw is very near the end of the motor pin. the last two heats i won also so i was 1st in the B final :-)

In the final i did ok but found the car across all races a bit soft with the stock dampers, the tyres gripped well but with this combination i was bottoming out a lot and grip rolling if i didn't keep myself on my toes or pushed too hard. I came 2nd in the B final so was please but felt if i hadn't have rolled (3x) so much by pushing it I could have won.

Does anybody have any tips on a good damper set and a spring set thats good with the db01? and what oil do you suggest, the stock oil is 900 weight but i have found most of the club guys are running with 30/40 with harder springs. The TRF ones are a little pricey, the 3 racing ones are cheep but look a little too cheep, i hear you can use the Team Associated or Losi ones, if so has any one used these?

Thanks

VV
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grab a set of B4 shocks, silver springs all round, 35wt front and 30wt rear, and keep the B4 piston setup, be sorted then
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grab a set of B4 shocks, silver springs all round, 35wt front and 30wt rear, and keep the B4 piston setup, be sorted then
I take it thats the Team Associated B4 is there a difference between the 4wd & 2wd TA B4 dampers? Just making sure.

Any recommendations on where to purchase?

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Looking on online shops am i looking for the RC10B4 'shocks' as the americans call them, i cant see them in a set so do i have to buy them all individually? Im looking at the tamiya ones now but there a lot at £47, does the 501x spring set fit with the stock plastic dampers?
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Keep an eye out for a secondhand set of shocks on here (or a wanted advert) they often turn up for around £25 the set.

You can buy them as a set I believe, but does work out pricey, mind you, not as pricey as the Losi shocks!

(B4 = 2wd B44 = 4wd)

PS I run old non threaded Losi shocks and they work great, based the setup on the advice of DCM above
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tower hobbies in the states

great value and shipping is quick
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tower hobbies in the states

great value and shipping is quick
I had a look at tower hobbies http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=ASCC9525&P=X and only found the fronts, do i have to order each part sepratly? if so it comes to $54, i can get the TRF set (inc all 4) ones for $70 :-s. Not sure about getting second hand ones as dampers get punished and if they break i have no comeback!
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Every now and then new one's come up on here but you will have to wait a while
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I had a look at tower hobbies http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=ASCC9525&P=X and only found the fronts, do i have to order each part sepratly? if so it comes to $54, i can get the TRF set (inc all 4) ones for $70 :-s. Not sure about getting second hand ones as dampers get punished and if they break i have no comeback!
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_in...oducts_id=5008
B44 front shock kit from M-K Racing, £37

http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_in...roducts_id=705
B44 rear shock kit from M-K Racing £39
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At those prices, I would go for the Tamiya set, combined with AE springs (or even the kit Durga springs). Tamiya's own springs are very soft for UK conditions, I think the Tamiya blue front is equivalent to the AE Silver front, and they get softer from there.

The Tamiya shocks are basically a metricised copy of the AE ones, but a direct fit on the car, and easier to work on. Start with 1.4mm rear piston and 1.3mm front piston.

Your bottoming out etc. is more a function of the very short travel on the Durga kit shocks, with the Tamiya shocks you get a lot more travel (they do need spacers in them otherwise you get far too much travel), you'll find that the car is a lot more settled with the longer travel dampers. Also the plastic dampers have ineffectual pistons (hence the #900 oil). They just aren't up to proper racing.
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Hi all,

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, i did a search and looked through posts but couldn't find anything.

I went to my 1st Buggy race today at Bury. Everyone was friendly and helpful and I met a few guys i see at my other local track where we race touring cars and buggies.



There where only 10 racers, so we where split into two sets of 5. The first race was going well and i managed to nail the jumps a lot better than last weeks practice run, and it got better each race. Had a few teething issues, my overclocked 7.2v servo wire came off so lost steering but luckily just after the line. Second race i won but again just after the line my pinion fell off :-s. I have found the hop up pinion set (13t, 14t, 15t) are a little longer than the stock ones and the grub screw is very near the end of the motor pin. the last two heats i won also so i was 1st in the B final :-)

In the final i did ok but found the car across all races a bit soft with the stock dampers, the tyres gripped well but with this combination i was bottoming out a lot and grip rolling if i didn't keep myself on my toes or pushed too hard. I came 2nd in the B final so was please but felt if i hadn't have rolled (3x) so much by pushing it I could have won.

Does anybody have any tips on a good damper set and a spring set thats good with the db01? and what oil do you suggest, the stock oil is 900 weight but i have found most of the club guys are running with 30/40 with harder springs. The TRF ones are a little pricey, the 3 racing ones are cheep but look a little too cheep, i hear you can use the Team Associated or Losi ones, if so has any one used these?

Thanks

VV
Looked pretty good to me pal - you certainly hustled it round the track well enough considering the way it was handling!
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