Go Back   oOple.com Forums > General > 12th & 10th On Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-09-2008
rcluke's Avatar
rcluke rcluke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ingleby Barwick, near Middlesbrough.
Posts: 807
Send a message via MSN to rcluke
Default torque steer

do prop driven chassis get bad torque steer with high powered motors ?
__________________
Associated TC5

Tamiya TT-01E

Quite a rare discontinued hard to get hold of NIB Tamiya TB-01
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-09-2008
sosidge's Avatar
sosidge sosidge is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,774
Default

You'll never dial it out completely, tweak the car well and you won't notice, but there will always be a pull in one direction either on or off power.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-09-2008
rcluke's Avatar
rcluke rcluke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ingleby Barwick, near Middlesbrough.
Posts: 807
Send a message via MSN to rcluke
Default

so i'd be better off getting another belt driven ?
__________________
Associated TC5

Tamiya TT-01E

Quite a rare discontinued hard to get hold of NIB Tamiya TB-01
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-09-2008
sosidge's Avatar
sosidge sosidge is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,774
Default

I suppose so. I personally wouldn't go back to shafts now, belt cars are that little bit more balanced in handling terms.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-09-2008
Spr0k3t Spr0k3t is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 34
Default

I've got both shaft and belt. The belt is a little more solid... but the shaft is quicker to put down the power when you need it. The split second difference does not really account for much though. The shaft drive will give you a solid accel curve which can be very nice in the flat stuff... but the belt will give you the variance which is a little more forgiving to the animal drivers. With the right setup, you can't tell which is which unless you know the car.

Personal preference: Belt
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 17-06-2009
chickentikka25 chickentikka25 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 123
Default

My TC3 = nearly undriveable (on our low grip track) with a BL. My TC5 = bloomin lovely with a 10.5!

The difference is that the shaft drive immediately transfers (minus minor mechanical losses) the torque from the shaft of the motor to the wheels. So, either god-like thumbs or electronic wizardry need to be employed to tame some of that torque. If you push the stick just 2mm too far, the wheels will break traction and you'll lose time.

Whereas, a belt will tighten and stretch slightly, making for a more forgiving drive and the car will track straighter because there's no torque steer.

On the other hand, if I wanted to do some high speed runs, it would be shaft drive all the way as rolling losses tend to be lower.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18-06-2009
jrb4 jrb4 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 8
Default

^^ I recon you would have to be a damn good driver to actually feel the difference. And I don't think a TC3 vs TC5 is a good comparison, they are fairly different cars.
There are dozens of other factors that have a bigger impact on handling than belt vs shaft. The belt will stretch for minute fractions of a second, measured in 1000's of millimetres before retracting, versus the minimal mass of the drive shaft taking minute grams of additional force to get rotating. Some of you must have god-like reflexes to notice that!
To answer your question, in my limited experience, GOOD prop driver cars NEVER get BAD torque steer.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 18-06-2009
discostu's Avatar
discostu discostu is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Whitstable
Posts: 1,571
Default

if a prop car was better why did all the top tc drivers change over to belt drive the likes of chris grainger andy moore lee woodhams ollie jeffries surly if they cant stop a prop cars from torck steer then none of us can.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 18-06-2009
Rebelrc's Avatar
Rebelrc Rebelrc is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,341
Default

do you meen motor/transmission inertia
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18-06-2009
lochness42's Avatar
lochness42 lochness42 is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Battersea, London, UK
Posts: 1,269
Send a message via ICQ to lochness42 Send a message via MSN to lochness42 Send a message via Skype™ to lochness42
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebelrc View Post
do you meen motor/transmission inertia
Yeah that's what is called torque steer.
__________________
Retired from racing
| パベルともうします、よろしくおねがいしますスロバキア人だ、今イギリスにすんでいます。|
| Ralls Racing | RCSGraphicWorx - paints, paintjobs, decals, custom wear | Schumacher Racing | Mr.O inserts |
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
oOple.com