"(In the UK) we`ve got this one-eyed Scottish idiot"

[Welshy40]

Jeremy Clarkson is a top notch bloke, as he has finally said something that is absolutely true.

"It`s the first time I`ve ever seen a world leader admit we really are in deep s***. He genuinely looked terrified. The poor man, he`s actually seen the books. (The Austrailian PM)

"(In the UK) we`ve got this one-eyed Scottish idiot, he keeps telling us everything's fine and he`s saved the world and we know he`s lying, but he`s smooth at telling us."

Its about time someone said the truth about this awful government. They are all lying in the Labour government.

[Flex]

Originally Posted by Welshy40

Jeremy Clarkson is a top notch bloke, as he has finally said something that is absolutely true.

"It`s the first time I`ve ever seen a world leader admit we really are in deep s***. He genuinely looked terrified. The poor man, he`s actually seen the books. (The Austrailian PM)

"(In the UK) we`ve got this one-eyed Scottish idiot, he keeps telling us everything's fine and he`s saved the world and we know he`s lying, but he`s smooth at telling us."

Its about time someone said the truth about this awful government. They are all lying in the Labour government.

Good stuff, that came up on the radio just as i read this title on the new posts list.
Legend

[DCM]

I wouldn't trust any of them.....

Brown can't turn round now and admit, yes, we are in the shit, and lose a lot of face. I think we would of been in recession one way or another, but the two past governments have shipped off, sold off, and allowed the complete erosion of our manufacturing industry, so we are wholly reliant on imports to sustain our 'financial spending', where as France subsidise their industry, so they make a lot of their own stuff, same as Germany, and they are being hit far less than we are.

One good thing about this though, makes watching Question Time a right hoot!!

[mark christopher]

ah mr Brown, British jobs for british workers, then slags the imingham workers off for complaining the ilatians are taking thier jobs

[DCM]

but he can't have British jobs for British workers, as he signed up to the open borders European Directive, and the agreement that the unions and Totale have agreed to, is to advertise the jobs locally, they haven't agreed that they have to employ local people though.

[David Church]

Just heard on the news Jeremy is in trouble for saying this. Do we have another Russel Brand Jonathon Ross style row brewing????

But haha, glad he said it!!!!! No politicians can be trusted!!!!

[DCM]

I think it was the 'one eyed' bit that the PC crew will jump on, as he has a disability, bless him.

[Southwell]

Apparently just a hard knock could make him go blind, gotta feel sorry for anyone in that situation, even if they are an asshole.

[DaveG28]

This'll probably get me in trouble but I'm all for allowing foreign workers, as long as it's fair recruitment, as I'd like to work abroad in future!

Plus, despite being in manufacturing I don't think subsidies are good!! I do think we should have more manufacturing, but by making it more competitive, not subsidized!
Top marks to JC!

[David Church]

Originally Posted by Southwell

Apparently just a hard knock could make him go blind, gotta feel sorry for anyone in that situation, even if they are an asshole.

I never heard about this before???? Sad for him though..... No motocross, mountain biking, rugby for him then

[DCM]

Originally Posted by DaveG28

This'll probably get me in trouble but I'm all for allowing foreign workers, as long as it's fair recruitment, as I'd like to work abroad in future!

Plus, despite being in manufacturing I don't think subsidies are good!! I do think we should have more manufacturing, but by making it more competitive, not subsidized!
Top marks to JC!

yes and no, with such cheap labour, it is hard for UK firms to compete against Asian firms, so even if you are giving the companies a Tax loophole so they can have lower overheads, to cheap land or rates, so the companies can be competitive. I worked in military aerospace for years, and the government sold us down the swanny, it employed thousands to maintain the COUNTRY's fleet of aircraft, and at a good price too, but that wasn't enough, always looking to save money, but happy to put billions into the NHS to watch it squandered.

[Lee]

The problem with the uk nowadays is the industry we do have imports its raw materials, with a crap £ at the minute this gets expensive. we then make our products and then export them again the crap £ means we make less, maybe a loss. If a 1% interest rate does not stimulate spending then i dont know what will.

We are in deep crap and things will get worse long before it gets better. Right now though nobody has the answer.

[DCM]

problem is, the 1% interest rate or 1.5% currently, isn't being reflected in loans and mortgages, although my mortgage payments are the lowest they been in years. The issue isn't the spending, it is the fact that businesses rely on a constant give and take of credit/debit with the banks, the banks now taking their ball, and aren't playing, so these businesses have no money stashed to tide them over.

I don't think, no matter how much we 'spend' all that will do is prop up ailing businesses and increase personal debt. It is about time the government got tough on employment, and immigration.

[DaveG28]

To be fair to the banks, the reason they're not lending is because they are in a right mess over bad debt they own. Until they work out all the values it's difficult for them to lend (although it was their f**k up in the first place to not know what debt they were buying!)

What can the gov do on employment, more infrastructure projects to create jobs?

[jimmy]

Immigration brings money and helps the economy - not the other way round. And no - workers coming in for a contract isn't immigration, but then we all have the equal chance to go work anywhere in Europe. If that's a bad thing then I can't see how.

[DaveG28]

Originally Posted by jimmy

Immigration brings money and helps the economy - not the other way round. And no - workers coming in for a contract isn't immigration, but then we all have the equal chance to go work anywhere in Europe. If that's a bad thing then I can't see how.

100% agree, but had been to wimpy to lit it like that!!

[ashleyb4]

I dont agree with immagrent workers if there none skilled. I think if there is a british person who can do that job they should be given the job over a immigrant worker who works for pennies. Un employment is growing and british people aregetting layed off and with the credit crunch companys want to getthe cheapest workers they can find.

A

[markwilliamson2001]

Forget about interest rates (up to a point), its all about loan (and mortgages) which need to be controlled really. The problem which happened (with Northern Rock) is that they lent vast amounts of money to people (4, 5 and 6 times two peoples/parents income) which could NEVER be properly repaid. This then also meant that house prices went through the roof, estate agents got really greedy, which furthered the problem.

The high house prices, put the market totally out of first time buyers, which eventually meant to the demise in the house market. This slump was then echoed in the interest rate drops by government to try and stimulate house buyers with low loan rates, but it was still too high for first time buyers. This then effects business, which leads to a recession and crap £.

Summary - every action has an equal and opposite reaction - for great wealth, there will be great poverty.

[markwilliamson2001]

Go back to limited values on a single persons wage (3 times one persons income) and the market will stablise.

[DaveG28]

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

I dont agree with immagrent workers if there none skilled. I think if there is a british person who can do that job they should be given the job over a immigrant worker who works for pennies. Un employment is growing and british people aregetting layed off and with the credit crunch companys want to getthe cheapest workers they can find.

A

Doesn't the minimum wage apply to immigrants? (ignoring illegals which presumably everyone agree's should be stamped down on!?)

Also, remember we'd then have all the UK citizens working abroad coming back competing for jobs!!