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Old 17-10-2012
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I was wondering if anybody has built a 2wd schumacher with the rear end of a cat sx3 (mid motor) and the front end of a cougar? which would make a similar lay out as the Kyosho DB1. I think that this combination would make a well balanced car. what are your thoughts?
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Old 17-10-2012
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I have seen one at Silverstone, John Spencer I think (could be wrong though). I can't see how it will different from any mid motor transverse motor car, the DB1 being a very different. concept
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I have seen one at Silverstone, John Spencer I think (could be wrong though). I can't see how it will different from any mid motor transverse motor car, the DB1 being a very different. concept
Hi Chris, My thoughts where to have the motor midway down the car to make it more balanced which in turn should have the car perform better which is the same as the DB1. the only differance would be the schumacher being belt driven.
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Old 17-10-2012
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Best thing to do is try it mate, I have a db1 and am now making summin simular its about half done at the moment, with my engineering background I like trying stuff and tinkering and see how it goes
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I think a similar project has been done with a TRF501X a few years back - the TRF201 wasn't out yet, but the guy wanted a 2WD buggy, so he converted the 501X to 2WD with another front end I believe. I can't find the thread, but it was an interesting project... It should go extremely quick when the grip is there
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I've done one, and the bits for conversion are still for sale

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...ght=conversion

Worked really well too.

I've also built a Tamiya 201/502x, but this isn't as good as a Schumi setup, although it does look rather special.
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Old 19-10-2012
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I've done one, and the bits for conversion are still for sale

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...ght=conversion

Worked really well too.

I've also built a Tamiya 201/502x, but this isn't as good as a Schumi setup, although it does look rather special.
Thanks for the advice everyone,

Tweaky, your sx3/sv looks great however when I do mine I want to design a new chassis and not modifiy the sx3. which shell did you use on the car?

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Old 19-10-2012
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Thanks for the advice everyone,

Tweaky, your sx3/sv looks great however when I do mine I want to design a new chassis and not modifiy the sx3. which shell did you use on the car?

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Hi Pete, the shell is a ProLine Bulldog Asociated B44, 2012 version.

A dedicated chassis would be the next step, then you can keep your sx3 intact just in case you wanted to convert it back.

If i can help you with anything else, let me know
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you say the conversion for £50....


then you will chuck in the SX3 as well for another £20?

is that right or am i reading it wrong?
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got it. lol, read again.........
it is morning time. the conversion would be £20 more on top of the sx3 haha..... should have gone to bed earlier..........
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I'd be interested to hear how your project goes, as I'm in the process of trying something similar.

I've converted my Cat sx2 to 2wd as a stopgap to buying a new 2wd, and I've had quite a job getting the rear to behave when exiting corners.

I think I've learned that the rear camber link is part of the solution, as it is designed with kit settings to make the rear go "loose" to help cornering. On a 2wd I didn't find that was particularly desirable, and I tried it in the middle setting last sunday for 2 packs on a fairly moist grass track, and it seemed a lot better. It was great round corners, expecially medium fast and fast corners, and seemed very balanced.

I've also got 60g under the rear gearbox which I felt it needed on the bumpy grass track I race at, I may try without at some point.

Anyway, I'm hoping it will go well this sunday with some competition now I think I've got the settings roughly in the right ball park.
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I'd be interested to hear how your project goes, as I'm in the process of trying something similar.

I've converted my Cat sx2 to 2wd as a stopgap to buying a new 2wd, and I've had quite a job getting the rear to behave when exiting corners.

I think I've learned that the rear camber link is part of the solution, as it is designed with kit settings to make the rear go "loose" to help cornering. On a 2wd I didn't find that was particularly desirable, and I tried it in the middle setting last sunday for 2 packs on a fairly moist grass track, and it seemed a lot better. It was great round corners, expecially medium fast and fast corners, and seemed very balanced.

I've also got 60g under the rear gearbox which I felt it needed on the bumpy grass track I race at, I may try without at some point.

Anyway, I'm hoping it will go well this sunday with some competition now I think I've got the settings roughly in the right ball park.
Well so far I have managed to make a rough chassis out of wood (table place mat, Shhhhh dont tell the wife ) before i make a carbon fibre copy. I need to make narrower at the sides of the batteries, also Im not sure what shell to use or to make one. anyway here is a quick pic of what I have done so far.

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Old 07-11-2012
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One of the Schumacher lads at TORCH had one of these. Built by i think his dad or possibly his dads friend iirc. Went well but anything seems to be quick in the ex-TC guys hands lol
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Well so far I have managed to make a rough chassis out of wood (table place mat, Shhhhh dont tell the wife ) before i make a carbon fibre copy. I need to make narrower at the sides of the batteries, also Im not sure what shell to use or to make one. anyway here is a quick pic of what I have done so far.

I will upload Pics later
this what i have done so far, im about to start making a chassis out of fibre glass.

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Looking good. I love these 'specials' that people come up with.
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Old 24-11-2012
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Well I have now made a fibreglass chassis however Im not happy with it so Im going back to the drawing board. but here are a few pics so far.IMG_1275 (640x480).jpg

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Looks good! The only thing id change would be your motor slot make it 'thinner' and 'shorter' you dont have much material left on the side at the moment and it could snap upon an impact...

Other than that looks nice!!
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I think you'll be (too?) tight on space if you use a saddle pack... Other than I can only say this looks very, very nice!
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Lookin' good ... could be the best layout for a mid motor buggy yet !!! Can you not space the motor up so the motor sits on the chassis rather than cut a big hole in it ?
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Lookin' good ... could be the best layout for a mid motor buggy yet !!! Can you not space the motor up so the motor sits on the chassis rather than cut a big hole in it ?
Could do... Centre of gravity and all that though i guess
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