If/when Li-Pos become legal

[Scouser]

Next season, hopefully, Li-Pos will be legal to use at regional and national events. I was wondering though whether people think the minimum weight of the buggys will be reduced so as to allow cars to run without the need for extra ballast, or will the weight limit remain the same meaning that racers have to use lead etc to be race legal?

[Chrislong]

This has already been discussed in another thread.

The weight limit is global, and should remain global.

If all bodies lower, then so-be-it (although it'd be unfair on Nimh racers who are well over the current limit), but id certainly be against the BRCA lowering it if they were breaking away from the global limit.

[mobile chicane]

I'm a lipo convert and I reckon the weight limits should stay as they are so those who run cells can contilue to do so

[c0sie]

I think its worth pointing out that it will only become BRCA 'legal' for next year if WE the 10th offroad racer goes to the AGM and vote it in.

The more people that actually go and vote, the more chance we have of getting it in

If it gets proposed ill gladly come along to the AGM to vote for it.

[bigred5765]

O it going to get proposed. and so far me, chris cocker, mr long are going anyone else that wants a lift on the way let me know, first come first served

[danDanEFC]

when and were is the agm?

[modelimages]

Originally Posted by c0sie

I think its worth pointing out that it will only become BRCA 'legal' for next year if WE the 10th offroad racer goes to the AGM and vote it in.

The more people that actually go and vote, the more chance we have of getting it in

If it gets proposed ill gladly come along to the AGM to vote for it.

without wishing to get into a debate about the pro's and con's of lipo cells i think it does need pointing out that just because you vote for something at an AGM doesn't mean it will happen, as an example proposals to use a limited number of tyres at an event could be passed, it is then up to the off road committee to try and sort out how, it has been discussed on here before that it would be almost impossible to police and scrutineer, so it probably wouldn't happen.
similarly lipo's, vote whatever you want, but it doesn't mean it will happen.

[Northy]

Originally Posted by c0sie

I think its worth pointing out that it will only become BRCA 'legal' for next year if WE the 10th offroad racer goes to the AGM and vote it in.

I think there are other things to take into consideration too.......

EDIT, Damn, John beat me too it!

G

[RcRob]

I thought the BRCA was run by us the racers? Therefore if we vote in a rule it would be followed?

I can understand not using it on something like limited tire quantities due to the extra work involved for Voluteer's, but surely if a rule as simple as allowing Lipo's is passed there is no reason for them not to be used? Especially as the hard work (making rules/lists) has already been done for the touring car section this year.

[Lee]

Agreed John, there are a lot of issues with lipos that a lot of the public do not know and that i cannot go into on a public forum. There are a lot of safety issues with regard to them and basically its the EB who have the final say on what we run. I would not want to run something that has not been passed by people much more knowledgable in than me in that particular field.

I feel a lot of peoples trip to the agm, just to vote for lipos could be a wasted one.

[Northy]

Well I'll be going to my daughters christening......

[jimarea51]

Can I come??

Christening that is...

JIm

[Lee]

Im going to graham and jims daughters christening too

[Northy]

Originally Posted by jimarea51

Can I come??

Christening that is...

JIm

Er.... don't you have to be there?

G

[Chrislong]

Whatever rumours do the rounds. The proposal needs votes to get passed so im still fully intending on going, as is Carl & Matt, Cocker and a few guys from Southport. Don't let the rumours put you off attending, show your support.

I am strongly against running Nimh cells for any longer than I need to, they're unreliable, unpredictable, unsafe and make racing too expensive, then with all the voodoo on charge, discharge, equalise, storeage.... .. for godsakes, Lipo's don't even need to be assembled!!! How easy could they be.

If the passed proposal still gets turned down on other grounds, well it'd need to have good proof on whatever grounds. But if the rumours put you off attending and it doesn't get passed in the first place - well it'd be a shame to have not tried.

[super__dan]

I was planning on going to the AGM to be involved in the process and to know in my mind whether the right decision was made.

However I too am going to Mia's Christening.

[telboy]

They should do 'online voting' for those that can't make it.
Yes we should all support our hobby and should vote towards things that need to be voted for. But, there are actually things, that in the real world, are actually more important than model car racing (such as Mr G's daughters christening, and my own situation with the twins which will be kicking in around that time too).
So I think they should hook with present technology and add online voting.
I'm sure most people (like myself) would love to come along and vote, but just have more 'important' things to be doing.
I used to go to all the AGM's and vote for subjects related to the extinct F1 class, even though there was only a handful of us racing in it, so I know what its all about. But as I said, I've had more pressing engagements in the last 10 yrs or so like, family, business, work that haven't allowed me to go.

Personally, I don't see why they shouldn't allow them. The TC lads have run them all year without a hitch (not that I've heard of anyway) and they'll charge theirs at stupid rates to get every last ounce of performanc out of them. We on the other hand, won't have to realy.
And surely they can't be no more harmful that the cells we run now (and last year) yet we still run them.

[Body Paint]

Totally agree with Chris Long here, if you don't go and show your support for Lipo then why should the EB even coonsider making Lipo legal for 09.

If you want something to happen you HAVE to make youself heard, that could be just a case of sticking your hand in the air to support a proposal and make the officials aware that we (the BRCA members) want Lipo brought in.

[mark christopher]

double post

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by modelimages

without wishing to get into a debate about the pro's and con's of lipo cells i think it does need pointing out that just because you vote for something at an AGM doesn't mean it will happen, as an example proposals to use a limited number of tyres at an event could be passed, it is then up to the off road committee to try and sort out how, it has been discussed on here before that it would be almost impossible to police and scrutineer, so it probably wouldn't happen.
similarly lipo's, vote whatever you want, but it doesn't mean it will happen.

Originally Posted by Lee

Agreed John, there are a lot of issues with lipos that a lot of the public do not know and that i cannot go into on a public forum. There are a lot of safety issues with regard to them and basically its the EB who have the final say on what we run. I would not want to run something that has not been passed by people much more knowledgable in than me in that particular field.

I feel a lot of peoples trip to the agm, just to vote for lipos could be a wasted one.

i hate to point the obvious but, the there is a brca lipo list, that is being used by the on road section, how could they say no to one yet ok for another??