Kyosho 2.2" Wheels & Tyres Question

[alcyon]

I find something rather annoying about the new kyosho wheels for offroad cars. The offset is totally different than the old school early 90's 2.2" wheels. When placed on my optima mid with Lazer suspension, i find the old wheels, W5026W and W5028W ,which is still supplied on the New ZX-5 RTR by the way, makes the front wheels wider than the rear, which is the way its supposed to be. Unknowingly i bought a set of NEW Kyosho wheels which are flat at the sides, and the front track is narrower than the rear? why did kyosho change the offset? Also why is is not easy for me to get the RTR (old ZX-R) rims? Some places do carry them but some wont, they say their customers wont buy them.
Have alook at these pics.
I also really do not like the looks of the new rims and the new Pro Line tyres which look like truck tyres to me.
1st pic, My Optima Mid with ZX-5 RTR Tyres , nice eh?
2nd pic, top view, upper side, ZX-5(ZX-R) RTR wheels, notice the front width wider than rear?
Lower side, new kyosho wheels with new proline tyres, notice rear track width wider than front.
3rd pic : The Side with new Kyosho wheels and modern proline tyres.Ugly eh?
Why kyosho does not list the RTR tyres in their ZX-5 Manual, when its obvious it is the W5641 tyres, which were also stock on the ZX-R from 1992 ? That means i wont be able to buy exact replacement tyres? But why did they supply these tryes with the RTR if they are not going to sell replacements?
I totally beleive that the W5641 tyres can be just as good as other modern tyres, it just needs sponge inserts in them to be better, anyone tried this yet?

[Ema]

About the wheels ...

If you run 90's cars you need the wheels with the right offset:
- Front W5026 (W)
- Rear W5027 (W)

These wheels are no longer produced by Kyosho however it seems that:
- Front W5203 is the same as W5026
- Rear W5204 is the same as W5027

Hope that helps.

Bye
Ema

[isobarik]

the optima mid back in the days used 2.0 wheels and they have the same ofset it was just the inner sleeve that was narrower for the front.

So when the Lazer ZX came in between it came with the optima mids standard offset but at the worlds in sidney the switch came from 2.0 to 2.2 and the front wheels has an different offset compared to the rear wich used standard ofset so thats why the drilled hubs came out to widen the front
but then the shafts was abit on the short side so w-5063 was born.

When the ZX-5 came it had the old front suspension so it used the old / zxr 2.2 wheels but when the new losi front susp came the had to have an even more shallow ofset so new rims for the front was born.

W-5641S are the soft one fpr the rear
W-5631S are the soft ones for the front

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

Whats with the cigarett burn on the roof??

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

If your after wheels for this car the get the MAD Rat 2wd front and rear wheels, even though its a 2wd the front wheels have hexes and fit as per the original perfectly in all areas.

I use these wheels on my ZX-R and ZX-S. All depending on the surface your racing on you will need inserts. If on clay the Proline or Losi insert is a prefered choice which also works on grass or carpet. I use the blue answer inserts.

[alcyon]

Originally Posted by isobarik

Whats with the cigarett burn on the roof??

mvh Isobarik

lol, that isnt a cigarette burn, i had to make a hole for transponder for the race i went to last week remember? now i cover the hole with double sided tape. Guys those info you gave me is very valueble, thanks a bunch !

[alcyon]

welshy i remember some time back you told me that its best to run the front wider , by using the inner hole on the LA-59 hub. i read on the net about track width and all the sites say that if the front is wider than the rear, the car will have less steering. I am in need of more steering so i now used the standard outer hole on the hub LA-59, which also reduces caster and track width. with my front narower, i do indeed get noticably more steering. what are your thoughts on this ?