BRCA Mid South 4wd regional at DMS this Sunday (July 3rd)

[Darren Boyle]

BRCA Mid South 4wd Regional - round 3
DMS Model Car Club - Watford - Sunday 3rd July


Venue
Our venue for this coming sunday is our usual place - Parmiters Sports Centre, Thomas Parmiter School, High Elms Lane, Watford, Herts, WD25 0JU


Please be aware that the postcode is for the school, the entrance for the Sports Centreis approx 50 yards before this further down the lane.


Times
The Sports Centre will open at 8am (please dont arrive earlier since you will NOT get in), and since there are no tents/ez ups/gazebos to erect, a nice lay in bed for you all!!! Open practise will open at 8:30am and run until just before 10am (so plenty of practice time)


Cost and Booking In
The cost to race for those who are pre-booked is £10, limited booking in on the day may be available at the cost of £15. The open classes (2wd buggies, Trucks/SC's and Micros - if enough interest) are all £5 to race pre-booked - £10 on the day. All booking in is on the DMS Results website here - www.dmsresults.co.uk there is still juts under 24 hours to get booked in.


Facilities and Track
The track is an indoor track consisting of 80% carpet and 20% slippery floor, various man made jumps, bumps and obstacles included


Ample pitting space (please bring your own table and chair) and limited 240V power outlets (please bring your own extension leads) Any 12 volt batteries, in a leak proof contianer please..


A small selection of cold snacks and drinks as well as tea and coffee will be available onsite, but hot food will need to be sourced from off site (there is a McDonalds less than 5 minutes away)


Most popular tires are Schumacher Yellow Minipins front and rear, although Mini Spikes can work and Staggers are used by some 2wd's on the front. No restriction on tyres except for no foams or additive.


Our full DMS trackside spares shop will be present for all your needs, if there is anything you need in particular, then please call or email by close of busines friday and we will bring it along for you.


As per BRCA rules, all LIPO batteries being charged MUST be inside a recognised LIPO sack (or similiar), anyone found not using one will be asked to leave (you have been warned)...


PT's must be used (we only have a small handful of loan PT's on a first come first served basis only)


Trophies will be awarded for overall TQ and first place in all 4wd finals (BRCA regional class) - there are no trophies for the open classes


Limited spaces still available to pre-book for those who not yet entered.........

Booking In - www.dmsresults.co.uk
Club Website - www.modelcarclub.co.uk

[mattybucks]

Really enjoyed today, great track, loved the big jumps. Well done to the dms team/Club

[Darren Boyle]

Thanks Matt, glad you liked it..

Results were....

Llyod Storey (Cat SX3) - TQ'd, from Myself (B44.1) and Ashley Wiffen (Cat SX) was third in qualifying.

The A final finished up as follows;
1st (1). Llyod Storey (Schumacher Cat SX3)
2nd (3). Ashley Wiffen (Schumacher Cat SX)
3rd (4). Kevin Hunt (X-Factory X5 Squared)
4th (2). Darren Boyle (Associated B44.1)
5th (10). Jon Dell (Tamiya TRF511)
6th (5). Kirk Redford (Associated B44.1)
7th (7). Tony Evdoka (Kyosho Lazer ZX5 FS2)
8th (8). Andy Birch (Durango DEX410)
9th (6). Ian Edwards (Kyosho Lazer ZX5 FS2)
10th (9). CHris Ely (Tamiya TRF511)

B Final
1st (1). Ian Buck (Schumacher Cat SX)
2nd (3). Alec Springer (Tamiya TRF511)
3rd (8). Christopher Smith (Tamiya TRF502)

C Final
1st (5). Andy Otoo (Associated B44)
2nd (6). Jack Day (Yokomo BMAX4)
3rd (7). John Barnes (Schumacher Cat SX)

D Final
1st (4). Roger Smith (Tamiya TRF502)
2nd (1). Keith Wardle (Losi XX4)
3rd (6). Adrian Hayward (Losi XX4)

E Final
1st (1). Ian Bartlett (Kyosho Laxer ZX5 FS2)
2nd (2). Dominic Powles (Kyosho Laxer ZX5 FS2)

2wd Open A Final
1st (1). Nigel Buck (TLR Twenty Two)
2nd (2). Alec Springer (Vega Elite)
3rd (3). John Barnes (Schumacher Cougar SV)

And just for Tony E who said the results posting could not be better last time, this time they include the qualifying postions and the open class final too....

Hope you all got home safely and enjoyed the day........

[Darren Boyle]

Just had a little look through todays results and done a quick comparison with how we "would" have qualified using the now "predictable" (and boring) round by round method. The reason we choose not to at DMS is plain and simple, our track gets no faster and no slower as the day goes on, so you only need one good "fast" (FTD) run rather than two.

I have only looked at the top 30 times (sorry to anyone in the D or E final), below are the drivers and where they "did" qualify and then in brackets where they would have been under RBR rules, those in green "gained by FTD" those in red "lost out by FTD" those in blue "no differance"........ enjoy!

A1. Lloyd Storey (A1 2pts) same
A2. Darren Boyle (A2 3pts) same
A3. Ashley Wiffen (A3 5pts) same
A4. Kevin Hunt (A5 6pts) +1 place
A5. Kirk Redford (A4 5pts) -1 place
A6. Ian Edwards (B2 18pts) +1 final/5 places
A7. Tony Evdoka (A6 8pts) -1 place
A8. Andy Birch (A10 16pts) +2 places
A9. Chris Ely (A7 13pts) -2 places
A10. Jon Dell (A8 13pts) -2 places


B1. Ian Buck (A9 13pts) -1 final/2 places
B2. David Burton (B8 23pts) +6 places
B3. Alec Springer (B1 17pts) -2 places
B4. Adam Downing (B4 21pts) same
B5. Simon Overall (B5 22pts) same
B6. Scott Faulkner (B6 22pts) same
B7. James White (B3 21pts) -4 places
B8. Christopher Smith (B7 22pts) -1 place
B9. James Blease (B9 25pts) same
B10. Lew Page (B10 26pts) same


C1. Mark Paice (C1 29pts) same
C2. Scott Follington (C5 37pts) +5 places
C3. Simon Crabb (D2 50pts) +1 final/9 places
C4. Mark Townsend (C2 32pts) -2 places
C5. Andy Otoo (C7 42pts) +2 places
C6. Jack Day (C3 34pts) -3 places
C7. John Barnes (C6 39pts) -1 place
C8. Simon Londors (C4 34pts) -4 places
C9. Matt Haskell (C9 45pts) same
C10. Matt James (C8 43pts) -2 places

[RoyalCBR]

Great day, well organised and a great track - well done DMS

When will the results be added to the overall scores on the DMS site?

[RudeTony]

Originally Posted by DMS Racing

And just for Tony E who said the results posting could not be better last time, this time they include the qualifying postions and the open class final too....
..

Well run meeting Darren and all from DMS.....
Thank you to Ray Paice too
Good info on the results too Darren .......but no info in what turn motors people were running - LOL

on another note I am known for speaking my mind and some people appreciate me being like this so here goes.......
Some drivers in the A Final and in fact in other finals are 'ANIMALS' and really need to learn some driving skills......
I just had to get that off my chest - now I feel great

Well done DMS

[Darren Boyle]

Originally Posted by RoyalCBR

Great day, well organised and a great track - well done DMS

When will the results be added to the overall scores on the DMS site?

Thanks for the kind words...

Results will be up online as soon as Keith has calculated them and sent them across

[Darren Boyle]

Originally Posted by RudeTony

Well run meeting Darren and all from DMS.....
Thank you to Ray Paice too
Good info on the results too Darren .......but no info in what turn motors people were running - LOL

on another note I am known for speaking my mind and some people appreciate me being like this so here goes.......
Some drivers in the A Final and in fact in other finals are 'ANIMALS' and really need to learn some driving skills......
I just had to get that off my chest - now I feel great

Well done DMS

I will work on the motor turns for next time

I agree also on the drivers comment, I fell foul of some "over enthusiastic" driving in both of the first two legs of the A. I would agree with anyone who said the track was "fast" and did not help with errors at very high speed, but too many drivers were just "out of control" on more than the odd occassion.

[DaSloth]

Well it was my first regional A final and i was a little disappointed with the driving standards too. We all have brakes on our cars and some people need to find them.

there were than few lewis hamilton moments in some of those finals

Interesting info by the way darren, but possibley skewed by the fact we were all trying to go faster to beat our FTD, if it was RBR then a different mind set kicks in

Ian

[Darren Boyle]

Originally Posted by DaSloth

Interesting info by the way darren, but possibley skewed by the fact we were all trying to go faster to beat our FTD, if it was RBR then a different mind set kicks in

Ian

Maybe I guess... but I bet you was glad it was FTD though "Mr 1 Run Wonder" ;-) LOL

[Skye]

As someone who is new to the game and so far has only competed in one full club meeting, could someone please explain the difference between FTD and RBR qualifying, and how they both work?

Very many thanks in advance!

[Darren Boyle]

FTD takes everyones fastest "single" run of the day, puts them in order and the top ten make the A next ten the B and so on, basicaly you only need to do 1 good run.

RBR was brought in for ever changing track conditions, were older style grass tracks would get slower as the day went on (as the grass wore etc) or multi surface tracks would suffer through changing weather conditions and no matter how hard you tried you could not realisticlaly improve on your time you had set earlier in the day. RBR takes each round (of the 4) from the day and scores everyone from 1 downwards based on where they finished in that round (1 for 1st, 2 for 2nd and so on down the list) at the end of the four rounds of qualifying, each driver takes their best two round "scores", adds them together and those with the lowest scores make the A, next ten the B and so on. The main difference is, your lowest round "scores" may not neccasarily be your fastest two times around the track itself, but your best in terms of where you were placed against everyone else "in that round".....


HTH

[mattybucks]

Ftd stands for the fastest time of the day, round by round is when you get points for the best three rounds.

Round by round is about being consistent through out the day. Where as Ftd you only need one good run.

[Skye]

Thats excellent, it now makes perfect sense. Thank you both very much!