Durga and JC Concepts Rulux Wheels

[MR_C]

Helloooo

Just wanted to pick a few brains if possible. I am looking to replace the standard Durga / 501 wheels with JC Concepts Rulux wheels. I have seem photos of them on both a Durga and a 501 and they look awesome; however when i have looked into buying them there are two model types listed - B4 and B44.

Just wanted to ask which ones fit the Durga / 501 and if they use the same size fitting as the standard wheels or if they are 12mm size?

Also, Where is best to buy?

And one more thing! When tyres have a compound colour (green for example) would these be a hard compound or soft?

Cheers

[DCM]

Durga would need B44 front and B4/B44 rear wheels.

Compounds, sometimes they are how soft the tyre is, and other's like on Schumacher, is more a relevance to their use.

[MR_C]

Great, thanks for your reply. I have been looking at them for a while and will be getting some ordered soon. With regards to the tyres i am looking for some fairly hard compound rubber. The car is mostly used for flat, outdoor tarmac and occasionally indoor wooden floors. The standard tyres are great both outdoor and in but i have gone through half a dozen sets in as many months!! I did buy some fairly cheap 3racing wheel / tyres combos from Stella and they have a pretty hard compound. They have been ideal for the outdoors, can barely tell they have been used but as you will know, indoor the car simply wheel spins!

I have played around with various set ups on suspension etc over the years but since i have only really used standard tyres i am a bit green when it comes to understanding colour compounds etc.

Thanks for your help!

[mole2k]

You'll need to get two separate sets of tyres, one of indoors and one for outdoors. You'll want something in Schumacher's yellow compound for indoors (minipins, minispikes or fullspikes) but those would be lucky to last 5min on tarmac.

I'm not overly versed up on tyres that would work on tarmac but im sure you could probably get some form of on-road tyre with a tread on it which would last quite well.

[MR_C]

Thanks for your advice. I will look a bit closer at the Schumacher tyres. I have heard good reports about Proline but i'm finding it a bit of a minefield to be honest! I dont know if it's my driving style to blame but i seem to be quite tough on the tyres!. I have gotten into the routine of replacing them with the same ones and it is costing a small fortune!

I think i will give the Schumacher yellow compound minipins a try. They sound like they could be my saviour!

Cheers again.

[muratti]

As for the Onroad tyres i´ve heard only good reports about Proline Dirt Hawgs. I recommend to try these for Onroads as they don´t have pins or Spikes.
About Tyre Compounds i researched this in the last few months:

Schumacher:

· Blue - hardest but still a lot softer than most of Tamiyas tyres
· Green - soft
· Yellow - soft, hardness similar to green but the rubber compound gives more grip.

Losi:

· Silver - Silver compound tires are excellent all-around, firm tires. Due to their durability and versatility, they can be used on surfaces ranging from loose soil to turf or asphalt.
· Red - Red compound tires provide exceptional bite and tread life. This compound is commonly used on dry hardpacked outdoor racetracks. Very safe compound for all conditions.
· White - White compound tires will provide increased grip and traction on most surfaces, and are proven to perform very well in cold weather conditions.
· Pink - Pink compound tires are commonly used when racing indoors. This compound typically performs best on high-traction or “tacky” surfaces.
What types of tires work best on sand or loose soil?
Answer:
A tread pattern with a large lug and wide spacing between each lug performs best in this type of environment. The large lug allows the tire to bite down into the soft surface and create traction. Silver or Blue compounds work best because they give the tire rigidity needed to claw through the loose soil.
Proline:

Bow Tie or Hole Shot with M2 or M3 Compound

[craigosh]

Just to point out, the JC wheels have the same deeper hex on the front as the B44 which means that unless you replace the hex on the axle with the b44 one, or use a spacer in the wheel, it will bind up on the durgas hub!

I've run them with a little plastic spacer in but you have to be careful not to round the hex out when you tighten the wheel nut up, as the jc wheels seem a little softer than the tamiya/losi/ae wheels!

If you really torque the nut up the axle could spin and strip the hex!

[dimblum]

I've been running JConcept Rulux wheels on my DB-01 for a couple years now.. They have become my favorite wheel by far

I have not had any trouble with the Hex of the wheel binding against the hub.

It seems that replacing the stock dogbones with the CVD's help this problem a little.. I also replaced the stock hexes with the blue anodized Tobee Craft hexes (the 'direct copy' hexes, not the conversion hexes to fit larger wheels) - here is a picture: http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~tobee/43890.JPG.. The Tobee Craft hexes appear to be exactly the same as the stock hex, but I have never compared the thickness with my caliper.

I will double check to see if there is a difference between the two hexes. If so, the Tobee Craft hex could be a better solution than trying a B44 hex.. I would imagine that the B44 hex would use a different hole diameter for mounting to the drive shaft, which would be an issue for the DB-01..

Craigosh - if you have already fit the B44 hex on the DB-01 hub, please let me know.. I'm anxious to find out if it is a direct fit.. Besides, the B44 hexes are easier to get..

Originally Posted by craigosh

Just to point out, the JC wheels have the same deeper hex on the front as the B44 which means that unless you replace the hex on the axle with the b44 one, or use a spacer in the wheel, it will bind up on the durgas hub!

I've run them with a little plastic spacer in but you have to be careful not to round the hex out when you tighten the wheel nut up, as the jc wheels seem a little softer than the tamiya/losi/ae wheels!

If you really torque the nut up the axle could spin and strip the hex!

[MR_C]

Thanks chaps! All very helpful. Following all the advice I have ordered the wheels now and I have decided to take a comparison between the Schumacher and the Proline range . . . probably buy a set from each manufacturer. Might as well, either that or put in a repeat order for the standard Tamiya boots!!

I will fit them and run them a while. Watch this space!!

Cheers again!

[craigosh]

Not managed to get the b44 hexes on properly, you need to drill them out and open up the slot for the pin to go in as the tamiya uses a thicker pin! I tried but they ended up binding as well after i drilled them out!

The plastic spacer was by far the easiest solution. My rulux binded on the hub with the stock hex without using the spacer!

On a bit of a different note, The cat sx fronts fit alright just using the plain pin! no binding unless you really torque the wheel up! Would be nice to use the disk that schuy use on the cat behind the pin but the hole in the center of that is to small!

[carnage]

I found by taking the slop out of the axle with shims behind the hex resulted in no issues with any wheels on the front plus no slop
Steve

[Migs]

the B44 hex is the best solution in my opinion, just drill the hole larger so the axle fits through, then bend the pins into a bit like a cresent moon shape and it will go in

[kaszal]

Hello, I'd like to fit the Rulux wheels to the DB01R. This already has the front CVDs but, just in case there is a binding problem, what shims do I need? Is it 4mm for the axle? Also what's the best UK supplier for JC Concepts stuff?

Part number for the shims or weblink would be great. Thanks!

[Crazy L]

A simple washer behind the hex, no more tears. As for stockists, Mr Knight at MK racing usually has them or if not, he can get them.

[kaszal]

Just a long shot... but do you a UK supplier that has set of white Rulux in stock at the mo? I think the part Nos. are JC3306/7

Much appreciated as usual!

[Swalls]

MCR Chesterfield may have some, just got some yellow ones today but they asked which colour I wanted, so I guess that means they have white as well.

[kaszal]

Originally Posted by Migs

the B44 hex is the best solution in my opinion, just drill the hole larger so the axle fits through, then bend the pins into a bit like a cresent moon shape and it will go in

Thanks Migs, do you mean this will work with the original Tamiya pins that come with the DB01R kit? Thanks for your advice.

[simoncrabb]

Just my 2p, the Durango wheels fit perfectly on the DB01, 511, 502, etc. Really nice wheel, smooth, solid, etc, etc.

And a bargain at £4.32 a pair.

http://rcLazy.com/shop/wheels/

[Jamie.T]

The Durango rear wheels do not fit perfectly, the Tamiya pins are too thick, and have to be forced on the wheel. You can change the pin to the 1.6mm thick Durango one, but then its sloppy in the axle.