What Is the best f1

[grimidol]

Well as ever down to what you like but I am interesting in getting one again so what is hot and what is not

[ch!3f]

i run a tamiya f103 which is very easy to use hardly any messing with settings other then spring choice oil for shock and tyres,lovely to frive and handles well,my brother has a f109 from 3 racing alot of setting up to do and if slightly out handles like a piece of poo down the lave!best thing would be try and get a few goes of what people run and see which you prefer good old simplicity and drive-ability or modern and pretty technical.

can drop on tamiya f1's on ebay cheap 3 racing loose there value quickly.

[grimidol]

i had one 15 years ago loved it but but they dont seem to have moved on much tbh just a few more makes

[ch!3f]

theres no need to move on much if there perfect?

[watfordtrackwarrior]

the corrally is ment to be on an other level but as ive not seen one myself would have to say the tamiya f103 as ive just switched from the 3 racing f109 which dont get me wrong for the money 109 is a good car if you are racing on a big open track like ardent for example,but on tight small tracks where you may clip barriers the front end starts moving about and the kit bearings are pretty much useless as is the kit spur my bearings went after only 2 months get yourself either a brand new f103 15th anniversary kit or a good used one from the bay but try to get a car with a carbon axle if you go 2nd hand the 15th anniversary already has all the hop ups

[lochness42]

I don't know, I really like my F1'09. I'm beating regularly F103s at my track on rubber tires. Yeah you definitely need front alloy wishbone holders, that's true as std plastic is too soft and breaks easily. Anyway it's fairly cheap upgrade (was less than 15euros from HK for me when I got it).
To spurs - I got myself one of the Core spurs (easy to get for me from schuey as locally we don't have any 1:12 racing so noone have them in stock here).

[ch!3f]

basicly tyre choice on these is everything wrong tyres dont expect to do well,as for beating f103's thats more then likely cause your a better driver remember its down to driver skill and haw you get the car setup not just the car your using.my brother has a f109 and we both run silver cans with cheap esc's to keep it cheap and fair and we were doing very similar lap times.he is a better driver then me but my car was alittle faster as we havent got the gearing as close yet.

[grimidol]

i was looking at this one on ebay but not sure if it is a good price
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[ch!3f]

na its abit steep that mate fair enough its got hopups but its only the decks and motor mount really + they dont make any difference.

if you put an add up for 1 you might drop on,the 3racing f109 new are £80 on ebay here or could have a dabble at this f102 just as good as the f103 but abit harder to get parts.i have a f102 that i have as a spare car for if i brake my f103 also to let people try out to see if they want 1 which handles basicly the same as the f103

[lochness42]

Originally Posted by ch!3f

basicly tyre choice on these is everything wrong tyres dont expect to do well,as for beating f103's thats more then likely cause your a better driver remember its down to driver skill and haw you get the car setup not just the car your using.my brother has a f109 and we both run silver cans with cheap esc's to keep it cheap and fair and we were doing very similar lap times.he is a better driver then me but my car was alittle faster as we havent got the gearing as close yet.

not really, we're running 17.5t motors now (speed passion ultra sportsman combo) everyone on same tires. I've been able to beat guy that we're very close in TCs (and I mean VERY close). I think it's not really bad car and I enjoy running it.

[ch!3f]

your forgetting that these arnt tc cars and dont handle like them either the people you race against may not be as skill full at driving these to a tc car.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by grimidol

Well as ever down to what you like but I am interesting in getting one again so what is hot and what is not

If you want the ultimate but with no one to race against, go for the Corally. The fact it's a rearranged pan car rather than a proper F1 chassis means it's illegal for BRCA and most other meetings and most people wouldn't want to race with you.

Of the very best normal F1 it's a choice between the Yeah Racing Transformula, the Exotek conversions and the Tech Racing F125, just don't break anything on the Yeah Racing or Tech Racing as with both being Japanese cars spares will have to be found from Japan. The Exotek conversions are as good, and are easier to get hold of with readily available spares direct from Exotek or through DMS.

The most common ones are the Tamiya F103 and F104, and the 3Racing F109. To be honest all three of them have a similar level of competitiveness and none of them have an advantage on the track over the other two. The simplicity of the f103 rear means it's simple to tune the rear end. The F104 and F109 need more work to tune them but they are more consistent and have a much wider range of settings than the F103.

Currently we race on a small carpet track with a mix of an F104, some F109s and a couple of F103s with a mix of 13T and 13.5T brushless, 27T and 32T brushed, all on 2S. They all lap at more or less the same speed with the F103 cars having a small advantage over the modern chassis right now, but they are the also the ones using brushed motors which seem to give better power delivery for the F1 chassis so the motors used is the bigger reason they are ahead.

Originally Posted by grimidol

i was looking at this one on ebay but not sure if it is a good price
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

If you want to go for an F103 the price isn't bad at all, but it does depend on whether you want the carbon chassis or not. Standard F103 chassis can be found for £30-40, and if you are lucky they will have the alloy motor mount which is an absolute necessity to stop you destroying spur gears. The 15th Anniversary chassis is pretty, but you do pay over the odds just because of the printed badges on it which is why they cost twice as much as the standard carbon parts. The carbon chassis isn't a necessity, I prefer the kit chassis as the extra flex helps generate grip although the full length top deck is useful if you use high power motors to help stabilise the flex.

Don't even think about going for an F102. They are cheap to buy but if you are racing with one due to their age you are guaranteed to break the front suspension parts and you are then guaranteed to not find a replacement, and you can't replace the front end parts with F103 ones. Every one of our club members who raced back in the 90s now has a dead F102 in need of spares.

The F109 is good out of the box, but you do have more parts to adjust on it will run faster than the Tamiyas as long as you know what you are doing regarding suspension setup. I could never get mine to suit my driving style which is why I went back to the F103, but all the others love them. I just couldn't get the hang of the suspension tuning, which went against many years of pan car setup experience and I don't like link suspension on 1/12th scale either so the problem with the F109 was me rather than the car itself and I took the easy option rather than spending more time getting used to it. All the other F109s run fine, lap as fast as anything else, and seem to be more consistent race after race than the F103s.

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

Of the very best normal F1 it's a choice between the Yeah Racing Transformula, the Exotek conversions and the Tech Racing F125, .

What about the TRG 109's? http://www.rc-trg.com/trg109.html

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing

What about the TRG 109's? http://www.rc-trg.com/trg109.html

Tell me anywhere that actually sells it, or what it's actually won. I wouldn't claim anything is good if it wasn't, the others are all known quantities and are proven winners in major Asian championships.

[ch!3f]

[/QUOTE] The most common ones are the Tamiya F103 and F104, and the 3Racing F109. To be honest all three of them have a similar level of competitiveness and none of them have an advantage on the track over the other two. The simplicity of the f103 rear means it's simple to tune the rear end. The F104 and F109 need more work to tune them but they are more consistent and have a much wider range of settings than the F103.

Currently we race on a small carpet track with a mix of an F104, some F109s and a couple of F103s with a mix of 13T and 13.5T brushless, 27T and 32T brushed, all on 2S. They all lap at more or less the same speed with the F103 cars having a small advantage over the modern chassis right now, but they are the also the ones using brushed motors which seem to give better power delivery for the F1 chassis so the motors used is the bigger reason they are ahead.


If you want to go for an F103 the price isn't bad at all, but it does depend on whether you want the carbon chassis or not. Standard F103 chassis can be found for £30-40, and if you are lucky they will have the alloy motor mount which is an absolute necessity to stop you destroying spur gears. The 15th Anniversary chassis is pretty, but you do pay over the odds just because of the printed badges on it which is why they cost twice as much as the standard carbon parts. The carbon chassis isn't a necessity, I prefer the kit chassis as the extra flex helps generate grip although the full length top deck is useful if you use high power motors to help stabilise the flex.

Don't even think about going for an F102. They are cheap to buy but if you are racing with one due to their age you are guaranteed to break the front suspension parts and you are then guaranteed to not find a replacement, and you can't replace the front end parts with F103 ones. Every one of our club members who raced back in the 90s now has a dead F102 in need of spares.

The F109 is good out of the box, but you do have more parts to adjust on it will run faster than the Tamiyas as long as you know what you are doing regarding suspension setup. I could never get mine to suit my driving style which is why I went back to the F103, but all the others love them. I just couldn't get the hang of the suspension tuning, which went against many years of pan car setup experience and I don't like link suspension on 1/12th scale either so the problem with the F109 was me rather than the car itself and I took the easy option rather than spending more time getting used to it. All the other F109s run fine, lap as fast as anything else, and seem to be more consistent race after race than the F103s.[/QUOTE]

the f103 is a good choice as there are many about so more spares available too.if you can buy a new f103 anniversary 1 for £150 and that 1has been converted so is not an original 1.

whats wrong with an f102?had a few nice smashes with mine never broken it n its about 20years old. fair enough parts can be hard to come buy but you need the part numbers to get them and you may have to order from hk

also whats the crack with people on oople fair enough most of the advice is good but telling people not to buy something basicly because they dont like it.

have a look round fela set your budget and see what you can get for your money you just need to bear in mind that these cars are very similar and its down to driver skills not the car.

fair enough the pro's use top tackle but if you gave a pro a bog standard f103 to race with they will get it set up proper hot and do mint with it.

[ch!3f]

p.s if your mates wana get there f102's fixed here

[qatmix]

I don't see anyone saying don't buy a specific car because they don't like it on this thread.

Terrys club have been racing F1's for many years and his comments are spot on. I would also say steer away from the f102 as although it is fine to drive the parts are a nightmare. You usually have to buy a whole car of eBay to raid for parts. As most parts are not available anywhere on the web.

I would get a cheap basic f103 for £30-40 of eBay and run it. If you like it you can always upgrade it and I you don't then you will be able to get the same amount of cash when you sell it on.

F1's are great fun. It also teaches you to be smooth on power and how to take corners at speed.

[ch!3f]

so hes not saying dont get an f102 then because a couple of people cant get theres fixed even thought the front end is compatible with the f101?

most of what people say is good advice but then you get people who jump the gun and start telling people the stuff there looking at getting is crap and you need to be getting top of the range stuff to be competitive which to be honest is aload of crap it helps but if you cant drive your just going to p!ss people off smashing them off the track all the time cause thats all they will be doing.

ive learnt alot from using my f1 cars im alot smoother on the throttle now and like you said you learn to take corners at speed + you learn haw to take corners rather then just banging it in and using the power to pull your self out of it.

[qatmix]

Nope he is saying the f102 is fine but the parts are hard to find and so you are better spending the same amount of cash on a f103. It's sound advice as at our club f102's are retired as the lower front arms parts are hard to find and expensive to find, as are alloy rear motor parts for the pod (One went for £45 on eBay a few months ago)

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

Tell me anywhere that actually sells it, or what it's actually won.

Have seen it in a Euro RC shop on line for €269.90, but can't recall the shop & google's not my friend today. So get googling all if you want to find it.

Probably won a race or two in Japan but as for an F1 series I don't know