buggys and carpet....damage?!?

[clumsysaint]

hi.....im after people opinions regarding running buggys on carpet.....

do buggys running minipins damage the prima racing carpet in anyway??

some off the touring car guys are moaning at our local club saying that they have suffered a loss off grip since we started running buggys there.

they say its fluffing the pile up on the carpet......would that be the case?

any info and previous experiences would be great!!

thanks.

[racingdwarf]

What tyres do they use, and do they run addative?

as i have heard of probs if they use slick/foam tyres with addative, as mini pins are more agressive and can change the lay of the pile

[clumsysaint]

there running schumacher yellow mini pins which are more or less bald mate

what foams and slicks are people using,where they geting them from?

[ch!3f]

there moaning because they dont want you to race buggies there basiclly!

because your all using new mini pins it will rough the carpet up but shouldnt effect then really if there using similar tyres,fair enough they run them till there dead but thats there fault for been tight and not buying new tyres.

p.s you wont damage the carpet any more then they are using mini pins

[lotussmart]

Originally Posted by clumsysaint

hi.....im after people opinions regarding running buggys on carpet.....

do buggys running minipins damage the prima racing carpet in anyway??

some off the touring car guys are moaning at our local club saying that they have suffered a loss off grip since we started running buggys there.

they say its fluffing the pile up on the carpet......would that be the case?

any info and previous experiences would be great!!

thanks.

I have first hand experience of what you are asking as we have run buggies on sections of our carpet track that were not covered and on some new carpet we bought for the Petit and YES it completely destroys it from a grip perspective and from an impact perspective. Landing areas will look like they have been machine gunned unless you cover them with hardboard, and the mini pins strip the carpet back to what looks like a new layer of carpet and all grip and additive is removed, it then took us 2 weeks or racing and practice to get the grip back. So don't do it, unless people run foams and cover tops of shock towers to protect your carpet when they roll. I'm all for foams, that way we could convert to a buggy track within a matter of minutes and even run a TC and Buggy club night. But can you get foams for buggies and the bigger question is would people invest in a set to come carpet buggy racing? I for one would like to give this a try.

[DCM]

pins line the nap up on the carpet, so if you are racing any form of slick tyre, you have a massive loss in grip. We ended up using foams and additive to overcome the lack of grip and banned pins.

[clumsysaint]

thanks for the help and advice fellas.....ill pass all the info on to the guys!

[tmaxxlosixxx]

Originally Posted by clumsysaint

there running schumacher yellow mini pins which are more or less bald mate

what foams and slicks are people using,where they geting them from?

yea we used to run mini pins on buggys we changed to foams well some us have due to cost of mini pins foams last a hell of alot longer mini pins last a couple of weeks for club use its dear it does affect the carpet we have tourers and f1s their and it affects their grip levels

[ch!3f]

Originally Posted by tmaxxlosixxx

yea we used to run mini pins on buggys we changed to foams well some us have due to cost of mini pins foams last a hell of alot longer mini pins last a couple of weeks for club use its dear it does affect the carpet we have tourers and f1s their and it affects their grip levels

where can you get foams and wheels for a buggy?

[Razer]

Originally Posted by lotussmart

I have first hand experience of what you are asking as we have run buggies on sections of our carpet track that were not covered and on some new carpet we bought for the Petit and YES it completely destroys it from a grip perspective and from an impact perspective. Landing areas will look like they have been machine gunned unless you cover them with hardboard, and the mini pins strip the carpet back to what looks like a new layer of carpet and all grip and additive is removed, it then took us 2 weeks or racing and practice to get the grip back. So don't do it, unless people run foams and cover tops of shock towers to protect your carpet when they roll. I'm all for foams, that way we could convert to a buggy track within a matter of minutes and even run a TC and Buggy club night. But can you get foams for buggies and the bigger question is would people invest in a set to come carpet buggy racing? I for one would like to give this a try.

In Norway we run minispikes and minipins, cut as slick tires. With Nosram carpet additive and 2-stage inserts they work very, very well, the grip is a bit more like outdoors, and it's very smooth. And they also last a looooong time!

Something for you to try maybe;-)

[tmaxxlosixxx]

Originally Posted by ch!3f

where can you get foams and wheels for a buggy?

try kamtec for foams and wheels just use normal ones we all do

[Apricot Slice]

Originally Posted by ch!3f

where can you get foams and wheels for a buggy?

http://www.rc-direct.co.uk/-c-39_198_205.html

we use these. ^
Takes a bit of doing.
I strip the inner ribs of regular wheels and mount the tires Mardave style.
one tire will do two wheels.
(I expect someone will tell you a better way of doing it)

[clumsysaint]

do you just glue the foams to the rim then??

ive heard some say they use thin double sided tape and that works well....

[tmaxxlosixxx]

Originally Posted by clumsysaint

do you just glue the foams to the rim then??

ive heard some say they use thin double sided tape and that works well....

yea some ppl glue them,sum use double sided tape

[tmaxxlosixxx]

Originally Posted by Razer

In Norway we run minispikes and minipins, cut as slick tires. With Nosram carpet additive and 2-stage inserts they work very, very well, the grip is a bit more like outdoors, and it's very smooth. And they also last a looooong time!

Something for you to try maybe;-)

how well doe those slick mini pins go on carpet wot compound do u use thanx

[clumsysaint]

the minipins ive been running are as bald as it gets.....and to be honest i hardly noticed any lose in grip at all! if anything it made it easier to drive around some sections.

but hey thats just me lol

[tmaxxlosixxx]

wot club u race at mate

[clumsysaint]

west mids area mate.....

marstons model car club and telford rc club

only just started using buggy indoors for a change....im into the outdoor scene alot more

[tmaxxlosixxx]

i been marston a couple of times their wernt many buggys their that was august last year tho lol

[pat*1]

Originally Posted by clumsysaint

hi.....im after people opinions regarding running buggys on carpet.....

do buggys running minipins damage the prima racing carpet in anyway??

some off the touring car guys are moaning at our local club saying that they have suffered a loss off grip since we started running buggys there.

they say its fluffing the pile up on the carpet......would that be the case?

any info and previous experiences would be great!!

thanks.

Get rid of the snoring cars and only run buggy's