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Old 10-11-2010
kyfran95220 kyfran95220 is offline
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Default Finally ... best gearing Bmax4 with 10.5 V3 ???

Hi all,

I have tried many times my b-max with 84t spur and 23t. Then I have replaced with the 81t spur and 23t to 24t.

Speed passion 10.5 V3 and 87t spur is not adapted.

Each times the motor is very hot (near 100°c... 117° once upon a time).

Do you think I have to calibrate better my ESC (Tekin RS) or have you a better idea (If you have a setup for the Tekin, indoor track, it would be wonderful )?
Speed Passion recommands 8:1 ratio with its 10.5 V3 ... I am always around with 7.92 (81t) and 8.2 (84t), but it is still very hot.

Please Help.
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Old 10-11-2010
CODMAN CODMAN is offline
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Hi KYF,
firstly, have you advanced the timing on the motor through the TEKIN ESC? If so, put it back down as this will increase motor temperature. OK, once this is checked, you need to adjust your gearing!

The first thing to learn is that recommended gear ration from motor manufacturers is JUST a STARTING GUIDELINE! It is not the final word! WHAT is much more important is your motor temperature. Each motor is made to work well in a certain temperature range (check the manufacturer recommendations for your motor to find this) and it is YOUR job to keep it in there, whatever you need to do. Generally, there are a few things you can do to lower temperatures: Install heatsink and fan on motor, cut holes in body for aeration, but the main way to adjust temperature is through proper gearing!!! And I believe you are now at that point (if you have covered the other two).

So presently you are running too hot (100ºC)? Lower your pinion by 3 teeth (increase the gear ratio) and see how that affects the temps. Still too hot? Lower again (or increase the spur to 84T or even back to the 87T) and test. Once you get your motor temperature to a good operating level, you can adjust the gearing to your preference (for more or less torque/ speed), but always staying within the suggested temperature range for the motor...

the way I test temperature is I run the buggy hard for 2 minutes, then pull over and test temps. If it's no good, I stop and lower my gearing. If it's OK, I keep going for another 2 minute (4 minutes total) and then check again. If it's OK, I go for another 2 minutes... I do this untill I reach my planned running time and the motor temps are still ok (in my case 6 minute mains; but for you it could be 8, 10, 12???).

So with all this, you should be able to get the motor running at good temps, unless the is another problem (ex: faulty motor or such).

Hope this helps!
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Old 10-11-2010
kyfran95220 kyfran95220 is offline
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This is exactly the answer I need.

Many many thanks to you !!!!

I will do all these steps and run and run ...
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Old 10-11-2010
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Make some holes in the chassie, directly under the motor position with a body reamer. Lower the temperature around 15°C!

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