difference between s1 and carbon fibre?

[lewis666]

hi there,

i am thinking of getting a schumahcer cat sx and i have found a few on ebay. but the cars are the s1 version. but what is the difference between s1 and carbon fibre?

also is there a difference the s1 and carbon fibre chassis apart from materials?

many thanks

lewis

[jim76]

the S1 kit is the same as the full carbon kit apart from the chassis and shock mount material. The shape of the chassis etc is the same.

S1 is a cheaper reinforced material, and has a slight bit more flex than the carbon version. This can help generate a little more grip and be more forgiving to drive than the twitchier carbon chassis.

S1 parts are also far cheaper to replace like shock towers.

[lewis666]

Originally Posted by jim76

the S1 kit is the same as the full carbon kit apart from the chassis and shock mount material. The shape of the chassis etc is the same.

S1 is a cheaper reinforced material, and has a slight bit more flex than the carbon version. This can help generate a little more grip and be more forgiving to drive than the twitchier carbon chassis.

S1 parts are also far cheaper to replace like shock towers.

so would you recommend the s1 version, because i race at costal model car club on the grass which is very bumpy, here is a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIhSym1YRs

any thoughts

many thanks

lewis

[mikeyscott]

Get an S1 as it's nicer to drive and then spend the extra money getting the titanium turnbuckles and alloy blocks for mounting the wishbones.

I've got both the c/f & s1 chassis and prefer the S1. Shock towers are still c/f

[lewis666]

Originally Posted by mikeyscott

Get an S1 as it's nicer to drive and then spend the extra money getting the titanium turnbuckles and alloy blocks for mounting the wishbones.

I've got both the c/f & s1 chassis and prefer the S1. Shock towers are still c/f

thanks for the help i will get the s1 version. i found a few on ebay, just got to persuade my dad to let me get one!

also what sort of spares should i get? such as wishbones etc.

also have you got any tips for the cat sx? as i am still racing an associated b3 but i need something better!

many thanks

lewis

[jim76]

The S1 kit doesn;t have carbon shock mounts, they are S1 also.
I'd get the SX II if you can, unless you get a very good cheap deal on the old SX.

spares wise, front and rear shock tower, front and rear wishbones, pivot block set (plastic) and try and get a stegger brace for the front to strengthen it all up.

turnbuckles are prone to bending, so as Mikey says, save the cash by going for a cheaper S1 kit and use the saved money to get a few upgrades.

[lewis666]

Originally Posted by jim76

The S1 kit doesn;t have carbon shock mounts, they are S1 also.
I'd get the SX II if you can, unless you get a very good cheap deal on the old SX.

spares wise, front and rear shock tower, front and rear wishbones, pivot block set (plastic) and try and get a stegger brace for the front to strengthen it all up.

turnbuckles are prone to bending, so as Mikey says, save the cash by going for a cheaper S1 kit and use the saved money to get a few upgrades.

well i have found a cat sx s1 version for £100, is that a good deal?

but i was told by a mate of mine who has one on order that for about £60 you can upgrade the sx to the sxII, is that right?

many thanks

lewis

[jim76]

no, it's far more than £60. the shocks alone are £80.

if you can get a second hand SX for under £120 with a few spares then it is a good deal, as some of the original alloy parts on the SX are now plastic.
depends on the condition of the car though