Kipor Generators. Any good?

[c0sie]

Looking at the IG1000, KGE 2000TC and the KGE 1000TI.

Im not loaded so looking to spend about £250 max from eBay.

Ive had a little search on Google and only really found blogs telling of problamatic starting issues...

But does anyone here have any experience, or any better recommendations for £250 tops?

Thanks

[c0sie]

Honda EX1000. Any opinions??

[Body Paint]

Mines the 1000Ti and has been pretty good.

Does this weird thing where it stops running if you put load on it within the first 20 seconds of turning it on from cold, and the 'smart throttle' switch broke but otherwise it has been fine.

Griff even has the sump of his filled with 50wt shock oil for over a year and it still works fine.

Most issues I have seen are caused by the oil low auto cut off that the Kipors have, which means if the oil level is low then it wont start.

[GRIFF55]

hahaha, 500cst!!! They are awesome things. I'd have another in a heartbeat

[c0sie]

PMSL @ Griff and the 50wt oil in the sump!

Clarke also do a IG1000, slighty newer than the Kipors.

So bloody expensive though...and they are the cheap end of the market :/

[blue_pinky]

Do you really need a gene though?

Handy, but noisy and expensive to buy and you need petrol to keep them going!

What can you do with one of those that you can't do with a big leisure battery and 240v inverter?

You can have the leisure battery on at at time of the day, it's silent, and with an inverter you'll be able to charge your mobile, run a laptop, use a soldering iron, umm....most things really, but can't think of anything else I'd want to do while I'm sat in a field racing cars?

Unless there's something I'm missing?

[Jamie.T]

Cris, i had the ig2600 for 2 years before i sold it, and it was brilliant. Easy to start, super quiet and very economical. Would deffo recommend one.

Jamie.......

[Chrislong]

Im also looking at Gene's, are there any cheap sources?

I have had Leisure batteries, and the lifetime of them is too short. Granted, Ive chosen ones with long warranties, and swapped them, but even so - its a real PITA when they go flat half way through a race day.

Many people have Gene's anyway, so even if I was to continue charging from 12v, there'll always be several gene's chugging away nearby. Ive taken til now to resist getting one, although I have been borrowing a socket from someone when I can - if not ive been charging from under my bonnet as I don't trust the leisure batteries. But now im considering a caravan, a Gene I see as an essential for it.

[simoncrabb]

I recently had this conversation with myself too...

In my camper van I have a couple of leisure batteries, usually an extra one for charging off, and the engine battery too... And a decent 3-stage charger.

I've had those batteries for about 3 years now, all still very happy - I swear a good charger helps keep them in good condition.

But for some reason I decided I needed a gennie to go with it. I've used it once since I got it, I'm not sure it was worth it, really, for race meeting use at least.

I personally think the Kipor's are noisy, but I'm a delicate little flower, so I went for a Honda EX650 off of ebay.

[c0sie]

Any electrical people fancy trying to figure out my (maximum-ish) consumption for the following please?

1 x MuchMore power supply rated at 24A max, running off 240v
1 x Weller TCP12V soldering iron rated at 30W running off 12v through the PSU
2 x Trakpower chargers charging at 5A each
1 x Laptop rated 4.5A and running off 20V through a 240V supply
1 x electric coolbox rated 60W, 5A off of a 12V source

[bigred5765]

dint worry about it to much we had a old 2 stroke Jobie Watts it ran 6 chargers and my caravan so i doubt a 1kva Will struggle

[Ross]

Sorry to hi-jack Cris, but would the IG1000 power this compressor ok.

http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productin...catref=AC640/2

Cheers Ross

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

so i bout a 1kva wil struggle

Carl, please translate dude I think your saying your 650watt managed loads more than it should, so a 1Kva (1000watt?) will be not struggle?

If I remember, running an overly powered gene consumes more fuel? More fuel than a lower power gene being worked hard?

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by Ross

Sorry to hi-jack Cris, but would the IG1000 power this compressor ok.

http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productin...catref=AC640/2

Cheers Ross

You can get stand alone petrol powered compressors, it'd be cheaper than buying both separately. I think a compressor is quite high demand on power, but I didn't see any rating for the one in your link.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

You can get stand alone petrol powered compressors, it'd be cheaper than buying both separately. I think a compressor is quite high demand on power, but I didn't see any rating for the one in your link.

Ar, i already have the compressor, but i think like you say, the stand alone one will be better,just not sure.

[alanw43]

even a 2kw generator in theory could power the compressor but due to the high start up current of the compressor the generator cant cope speaking from personal dissapointing experience with a 5hp engined 2kw genie

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by Ross

Ar, i already have the compressor, but i think like you say, the stand alone one will be better,just not sure.

Aaah, I understand. What I would do is take it down to the track and test it on a few gene's of willing gene owners, and make notes of what it struggles with - perhaps try and run it with a charger or two on the go too.... then you can know from experience what'll work.

[ashleyb4]

Only issue i have had with my kipor is the spark plugs mainly because i think it srunning a touch rich so i just need to clean the sprk plugs up nice and regular. But they are brilliant. As for your list of stuff cris the 1000 will run that fine ive got a 2000 only because ive got the carvan with microwave etc...

A

[DCM]

I would love a 4 stroke generator, 2 stroke ones are ok, but unless you keep them under load, they oil up..... At our club, we have a 2KV generator, old to, and there was about 12 people charging off it, soldering iron, lap counting equipment, and it sipped petrol slower than a student in a bar before they get their grant....

[Belsten]

Chris the Kipors are deffo the way to go judging by the tons of them I see everywhere
I dont have a genie, Ive a 12v although I generally bum a plug off someone and tap in to their genie
Been thinking about getting a genie for a while now and when I do plump for one, it will be a kipor for sure, probably off the bay
Failing that, if you do the nationals next year, pit within a half mile radius of DC and plug in to that bad boy, that can run pretty much a small city