cougar sv...any good?

[jasonnjane]

seen loads of these in the for sale section....are they that bad?

[Mrs oOple]

The Cougars have made a combined 15 national A finals this year, and have won two Nationals.

[Col]

Everyone who currently drives one will say they are the best car in the world. A few previous owners will say they are rubbish. Loads are forsale because we are a hobby generally occupied by people with too much money who always buy the latest car.
There are that many in the national a finals because they are sponsored drivers.

As someone who only drives 4WD, the cougar looks like a good car.

[Mrs oOple]

Originally Posted by Col

There are that many in the national a finals because they are sponsored drivers.

As someone who only drives 4WD, the cougar looks like a good car.

Indeed... as are generally most of the A final drivers, I meant as a proportionate comparison, the Cougars race competitively at the top, in the hands of sponsored drivers against other sponsored drivers, so comparatively speaking should compete well amongst other grades of drivers, is that sense?

[mikeyscott]

After a few issues, the car is superb and I'm speaking as just a normal club racer that sometimes ventures (when time permits) elsewhere for racing.

Schumacher customer support is superb too.

http://www.torchracing.org.uk/results/mtg39/ressum.htm

The A final I think speaks for itself (just need a few more Cat SXs). If we had the members that normally race with us instead of going to Stotfold I'm 99% it would have be a 10 car Cougar SV final.

Just need a few more 4WD racers..

[Colinevan]

May be a good car, however to the club racer parts seem expensive.

I bought a new phil booth sx, and quickly sold when i saw people regularly doing £40 in spares round per round. I couldnt justify racing if i did that much damage.

Sadly this applies to the x-6 as well. I recently snapped a chassis at 10mph.

Im basing comparisons on spares for a b4 and trf201x which are a lot cheaper.

Personally having just built a 201, i reckon more peeps will run these due to running costs and with recent results.

Cougar, looks much higher spec and has the bling factor - just the cost.

Col.

[jimmy]

You sold it because someone else broke theirs? If people start breaking their 201's will you sell that too? You've just built it but can talk about running costs?



Hee hee!

[jim76]

i suspect if someone can do £40 of damage to a cat each round then they can do an equal amount of damage to any other car!! It takes some serious talent (not in a good way!) to do that much damage each round. Maybe suggest the person in question runs a slower motor until they learn to go round corners?!!

I have run a cat for the past year, and i don't think i've used £40 of spares in that entire time.

As Vicky says, the Cougar is a very capable car, and more than a match for the other top level cars out there. Customer support is also second to none, with many of the initial teething problem parts replaced by Schumacher free of charge with improved parts.
And in my opinion it's also a pretty strong car.

[stegger]

Originally Posted by jim76

i suspect if someone can do £40 of damage to a cat each round then they can do an equal amount of damage to any other car!! It takes some serious talent (not in a good way!) to do that much damage each round. Maybe suggest the person in question runs a slower motor until they learn to go round corners?!!

I have run a cat for the past year, and i don't think i've used £40 of spares in that entire time.

As Vicky says, the Cougar is a very capable car, and more than a match for the other top level cars out there. Customer support is also second to none, with many of the initial teething problem parts replaced by Schumacher free of charge with improved parts.
And in my opinion it's also a pretty strong car.

Well said jim, £40 each round !!! are you talking about bending the front hingepin blocks ect. If so i know a bloke who can solve that fella. Cheap plug there for my brace's

[racingdwarf]

I run a B4, but a couple of club members run cougars and I have had a fair bit to do with them, also after running the same B4 for 5 years I was close to 100% sold on geting a cougar when they came out, just wanted to see a few 1st.
But 1st of all both cars at our club were 1st batch and they both had quality probs with gearbox caseings, and both lads had trouble with the diffs circlips, I rebuilt one and altho once you get it right and the ciclip tight it works ok,its all a bit of a fiddle. The B4 is just simpe and effective, compaired to the cougar. and due to this I am Erring towards a new B4.

This said the couger drives very very well.Just for a club racer,who has a busy life and can't spend lots of time on the car between meetings. I would go for the B4

Time for someone to dissagree

[jim76]

no, i think that's fair Dwarf.
The cougar does take a careful build to get it running right. But in fairness the car is aimed at top end competition where you would hope the racer has some experience of building and running cars and can apply a bit of logic with the threadlock and circlips etc.

The B4 does build a lot more straight forward and probably requires less maintenance (although i think the parts qualoity has dropped off a lot in recent years with the production move to China etc)
And as has been mentioned, the first batch of Cougars did have a couple of teething issues, but new parts have come through to sort those and will hopefully feature in any kits released from now on.

[chatts#725]

I just sold my cougar as im moving abroad, what a fantastic car it was tho, for a novice driver like myself never failled to put a smile on my face. i think the reliabilty issues were a shame, but i think its like this throughout any industry, i raced motorbikes for years tried different things and every time you opt for something british or european it would do certain things amazingly, but usually be maintainence heavy, expensive and unreliable. moral of this story is if you enjoy the building and repairing as much as the racing then you will be fine, however if you want something to be right first time and everytime with perfect build quality and good longevity then go for the big japanese manufacturing company every time, not only do they get it right, they prob have hundreds and hundreds of thousands to spend in r+d. (not preeching just my opinion)

[Colinevan]

Originally Posted by jimmy

You sold it because someone else broke theirs? If people start breaking their 201's will you sell that too? You've just built it but can talk about running costs?



Hee hee!

Well you know me Jim.. Iv gone through some cars the past few seasons.

2x B4 - sold
2x lazers - sold
TRf501x - sold
TRf501x Worlds - sold
Cat Sx - sold
Ultima Rb5 - sold
X6 4 gear - kept
x6 squared - kept
Back to a high spec TRF501x ( Mr Kirk ) - kept
Trf201x - just built
2 x madrat -kept
2 x Macnum - kept
T4 Factory team - kept

And the funny thing is , i bet iv only raced 10 times in the past 2 years ha ha ( work commitments ).

Tamiyas and the Associateds are cheaper to maintain and repair imo, hence me sticking with the Trf range.

Col.

[Colinevan]

Originally Posted by jim76

i suspect if someone can do £40 of damage to a cat each round then they can do an equal amount of damage to any other car!! It takes some serious talent (not in a good way!) to do that much damage each round. Maybe suggest the person in question runs a slower motor until they learn to go round corners?!!

I have run a cat for the past year, and i don't think i've used £40 of spares in that entire time.

As Vicky says, the Cougar is a very capable car, and more than a match for the other top level cars out there. Customer support is also second to none, with many of the initial teething problem parts replaced by Schumacher free of charge with improved parts.
And in my opinion it's also a pretty strong car.

Damage was a regular indoors event at Chadderton ( bury ). With large table top jumps. Driver(s) in question were all decent ability and from memory there were a few sponsored drivers who did the front end in causing the £££

As the track is large and indoors, damage can be severe, seen quite a few x6's snap a chassis there as well. My main point was if i did that sort of damage I would be abso gutted. Im pretty sure you couldn't break a 501x and cost as much as the parts are cheaper.

Im quite happy to buy and race the cars and spend lots on the cars at purchase, however when it comes to breakages, i will run a car that is cheap to run and repair .

Col.