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Old 16-01-2010
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Hi All, I have spoken to various members who were unhappy with the way the set up night was run.
I just wondered if any members had a better idea on how to do the next one?

I personally would have liked to have seen seperate tables for:
(1) Checking the weight.
(2) Checking the ground clearance.
(3) A knowledge table (hosted by Chris?).
(4) A setup table with Lucas's Xray setup kit (if he is happy to assist).

We then should have had organised set-up races so that we could actually see the difference that the changes have made - not the banger racing that ensued!!!

Please let me know your thoughts!

Tim
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There were a few problems on the set up night as regards to clashing crystals so people were limited to useful time on track. The last set up night was fine but i think due to the larger numbers now racing we need to change things for the next one. Maybe we should be split into groups with 5 mins running time and then on to the next group so you can tweek before your next alloted 5 mins.

I think the set up night could also have been used to grade the buggy drivers a little better than the news letter has suggested. There are not many drivers in F1 and a lot of drivers in F2. I have looked at the list for both classes and think that there are a few drivers in the F2 class that maybe should be in the F1 class, as their racing laps and lap times over the last few weeks dont reflect the class they have been put in to. Cheers Andy
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Old 17-01-2010
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Your comments are noted. I also agree that maybe this time around it was a little more un-ordered, after all there were 27 drivers and I think I recall that the setup meeting for our other meeting was less than half that.

I guess we are now a victim of our own success and fully agree that we need to consider how we run the next setup meeting. I think this is something that the committee can discuss when we have out first meeting which I'd like to do after the Winter Championship and before the next one so that we can take stock of where we are and adjust anything before we run our next championship.

Andy, with regards to your comments about the rankings which you've read in our newsletter sent out the other day. I've taken the rankings from the first championship and tweaked them slightly to account for new members who may not have been here for the Championship before. I've been watching drivers carefully over the past few months to see how they are performing and I feel I've got the rankings just right at present.

There are far more F3 drivers listed simply because I've listed everyone who's raced at our club and appear within the computers archive. Most of the F3 drivers deserve to be in that formula and I'm not going to create even numbered groups as it is down to driver skill if they are a F1, F2 or F3. There is no one in F2 or F3 yet who've shown in the past few meetings that they can keep up with the F1 drivers consistently and therefore it is unfair on them to be forced into a group just to even up numbers. It is up the drivers to prove to us why they should be F1 drivers and that can only be done on track.

There are some drivers I admit that have shown glimmers of potential, but silly mistakes prove that that still have a little way to go. I put Maz into F1 as he has shown week after week that he's of that calibre. I know Joe was in F1 for the last Championship but his driving was not up to standard and therefore dropped into F2. He seems to have found the sweet spot again so he's going to be the driver to beat in F2 this time around.

Another driver, Paul requested some time ago that he would prefer to be racing in the F2 category and his driving has proved that he deserves to be there. If it was not for missing some rounds in the last Championship he probably had a good chance of moving up to F2 on merit anyway.

As you can imagine, trying to sort rankings is always difficult, but I hope that I've got it right. Only time will tell.

Having said all that, if we get some great drivers showning that they derserve to be F1 drivers then that group will automatically grow, likewise with the F2 group. It's still early days but thanks for the feedback, especially on the setup meeting which I feel does need to change next time...

Oh and with the newsletter I hope you'll see that with the extra room now booked we should have much more space for tables so we can have a table setup for the Championship that is solely used to scruitneer the cars
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Old 18-01-2010
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Scott,it was the buggy drivers i was commenting on as i totally agree with the rankings for the touring cars over the forth coming championship.

There are very few buggy drivers in the F1 group[and i think some of them arent running in the championship] and a huge amount of drivers in the F2 group.i Think that a few drivers in this group although not quite being up to F1 standard are too good to be in effect the bottom group.

You have people in the F2 group who have been racing for quite a while, with complete novices. While i am certainly not knocking novices[as we all have to start somewhere]i feel racing with drivers that have a lower standard of car control can trip up much quicker cars causing them to have bad races/crashes possibly resulting in broken cars.
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Scott,it was the buggy drivers i was commenting on as i totally agree with the rankings for the touring cars over the forth coming championship.

There are very few buggy drivers in the F1 group[and i think some of them arent running in the championship] and a huge amount of drivers in the F2 group.i Think that a few drivers in this group although not quite being up to F1 standard are too good to be in effect the bottom group.

You have people in the F2 group who have been racing for quite a while, with complete novices. While i am certainly not knocking novices[as we all have to start somewhere]i feel racing with drivers that have a lower standard of car control can trip up much quicker cars causing them to have bad races/crashes possibly resulting in broken cars.
Cheers Andy
OK, lets see how things pan out this Friday and if required I shall tweak the classifications for the 1:18 scale. Please note that all 1:18 could be running in one heat as there is the potential for a lot of touring cars and we can fit more 1:18 into a heat. As I just said, I think this class is very new to us and we'll just have to watch and learn from this Championships...
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