Im new...please dont laugh at me...

[rookieracer]

Especially if this is in the wrong forum.....I want to race 1/10 electric buggies...is one called an Ansmann Mad Smacker any good?

[Hyper-1983]

Welcome. Not familiar with the ansam but if you look further down the forum there is a section for ansamm and I am sure someone there will be able to help you better.

[DCM]

it is ok for bashing, but racing, you may find it a little hard to keep going.

[rookieracer]

Originally Posted by DCM

it is ok for bashing, but racing, you may find it a little hard to keep going.

Whys that? Is it hard to drive?

[DCM]

It isn't very reliable, we had a chap buy one, a regular racer, and on a track, it just wasn't very good at all.

[rookieracer]

Originally Posted by DCM

It isn't very reliable, we had a chap buy one, a regular racer, and on a track, it just wasn't very good at all.

I'll give that a miss then...Ive had a look online at some Tamiya models....if anyones got any suggestions for my 1st car please let me know...Im looking at 1/10 electric buggies

[racdeaf]

Originally Posted by rookieracer

I'll give that a miss then...Ive had a look online at some Tamiya models....if anyones got any suggestions for my 1st car please let me know...Im looking at 1/10 electric buggies

ideal first car for u would be
For 2WD Team associated B4 easy to get parts elsewhere
for 4WD Team associated B44 again easy to get parts elsewhere

but there is still fair few cars to look at but just take your time and pick up all details which best option to go for

worth to look at
losi xxxcr 2wd
losi xxx4we 4wd
kyosho RB5 2wd
kyosho lazer ZX5 4wd

[Richard Lowe]

An Associated B4 RS RTR is a very good first car. Pretty much everyone will have had some experience of a B4 over the years, so plenty of help/advice is available and spares are very easy to get

[ConceptRacing]

I would have to disagree, the Mad rat is a good enough car to race, ok you need to do a few things to make it work to its best ability but then what car doesnt need some thing doing to it, for the price you cant get much better than that and also when you consider the X-PRO is now £100 retail, you cant go far wrong.

[DCM]

I have had both, and for the beginner, the B4 is the best bet, plenty of spares, help, advice, and is almost bullet proof.

[rookieracer]

Ive also seen on called an HSP XSTR ??

[Si Coe]

Avoid anything by HSP!

The Associated B4 RS is a very good choice. Associated have literally just announced a B4.1 RTR to replace the RS, fitted with a number of features that make it more appealing to bashers (a geared diff especially) and available with brushless. The thing is the older B4 RS is fine, and since its being replaced the price might come down.

What is quite interesting if you are very short of money is the Step-Up Stinger. The brushless version is just less than £150, comes with a 2.4ghz radio and seems to be pretty bulletproof. Certainly Johnny's one can take a hammering and bounce back, but it handles pretty well. His is the truck (I think only this comes brushless) but there is a buggy too.

[alexb4]

Ive had a b4 since i started racing great car and evryone nows about one and most have had one so will be able to help you the best car you can get if i was you i would get one with all electrics of ebay when your starting. But it is a good idea to buy new and lern about the car and how to fix it when you build it.

Best first car is a B4 !!!

[RogerM]

The best bet to get going is one of the RTR packages.

The two that stand out are the Associated B4 RTR (2wd) and the Kyosho ZX5-RTR (4wd).
A 2wd car will be easier to look after and cheaper to run (usually less complicated and thus less likely to go wrong / need parts).

There are others and everybody will ahve their favourites but the two cars above will prove good for a first car. If I had to advise one over the other I'd say get the B4 RTR as learning to drive with 2wd then going for a 4wd is much easier than learning with a 4wd and trying to get on with a 2wd.

[blue_pinky]

+1 for a B4 if your thinking about getting into racing at clubs etc

Cheap and easy to maintain, loads of knowledge to share, great to start out, grow and develop with, and win major competitions with if your thumbs are up it later on! None of the madrats etc have that pedigree so far!

If your not sure about competitive racing at all then maybe one of the cheaper options is more economical.

[Battle_axe]

+1 for the madrat if you are really tight on cash but i am sure a b4 would serve you well aswell to be honest they are both as quick as each other so it really depends as to what you want spares with the B4 trackside are easyer to get but the madrat is so cheep you could have another one just for the spares

[Smartalec]

Originally Posted by Battle_axe

+1 for the madrat if you are really tight on cash but i am sure a b4 would serve you well aswell to be honest they are both as quick as each other so it really depends as to what you want spares with the B4 trackside are easyer to get but the madrat is so cheep you could have another one just for the spares

You mean you'll NEED another one just for spares
Go for a second hand B4, there are loads for sale on here or ebay usually and you can get a decent one for not much more than the price of a new Madrat. There's no comparison in quality and the B4 is bombproof in comparison

[mark christopher]

yup b4 rtr. and maybe another battery and quick charger, the B4 IS a proven winner and it the same geometry etc as the top guys use, learn to drive it then look and getting better electronics as the car will still be good

madrat IS a CHEAP toy

[budgio]

One of these is what i,d recommend, they are due out soon.
http://www.redrc.net/2009/12/team-as...4-1-rtr-buggy/

If you are on a budget then get the X-PRO.

[sparrow.2]

+1 for the Associated B4RS and even more so the new brushless RTR one, which has the very desirable bulletproof gear diff and a bunch of other nice features along with decent electronics.

If you're just starting out and want to get into racing 2wd is a lot easier to work on and run without requiring as much maintenance.

Best bet is to get what the majority of the people at your club run and which you can get parts for locally. This is usually Associated stuff.