XXX KINWALD OR XXX BK2

[dave-p]

HIYA LADS, COMMENTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED ON THIS MATTER, SOME SAY THE BK2 IS BETTER BUT MOST I ASK PREFER THE XXX KINWALD THEY SAY ITS BOMBPROOF AND VERY STABLE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHICH WAY TO GO.

[bert digler]

Originally Posted by dave-p

HIYA LADS, COMMENTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED ON THIS MATTER, SOME SAY THE BK2 IS BETTER BUT MOST I ASK PREFER THE XXX KINWALD THEY SAY ITS BOMBPROOF AND VERY STABLE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHICH WAY TO GO.

cue ashley

[ashleyb4]

TA TAA

If you want the most up to date losi 2wd the xxx-cr is the one to have. Nice stable car to drive and very robust.

A

[Northy]

Kinwald was the better can of the two IMHO, and probably better than the CR

G

[migsy]

i've ran a losi XXX since the first proto-type came out and since then its only got better.
i bought a B4 and to me, it was like driving a mardave cobra with no steering. if you need advice, losi is the way to go.

[Tom3012]

IMHO... dont get either... the xxx kinwald is very old, and the bk2 was terrible in the UK (if ur based in the UK that is) . If you want a losi then get the CR, however i think youd be better with an X-6

[bert digler]

Originally Posted by Tom3012

IMHO... dont get either... the xxx kinwald is very old, and the bk2 was terrible in the UK (if ur based in the UK that is) . If you want a losi then get the CR, however i think youd be better with an X-6

AGREE

[Fiddybux]

XXX Kinwald is old, but good. XXX BK2 should be avoided, not good (they knackered handling with the low CG gearbox thing on it).

I just swapped my Kinwald for a CR and haven't looked back - belting car IMHO. XXX CR is great for me.

I have encountered a lot of anti-Losi sentiment in my time and it seems unfounded to me. I have never driven more competitively than I do now with my CR and it's all about setting your car up properly and using good tyres. Do this and it will handle well, and the rest is up to your thumbs.

I'd be mindful about buying into the hype concerning the X6. Sure it is a good car (all these drivers can't be wrong can they?), but it's expensive (certainly more so than a good 2nd hand CR) and you'll just end up putting Losi shocks and other hop-ups on it anyway to make it as competitive as everyone else!

[Northy]

The best Losi I ever had was the 'hybrid', the mod'ed BK2 that people ran before the full CR. For some reason I never thought the CR was as good as the hybrid. So I built my own 2wd......

G

[bert digler]

Originally Posted by Northy

The best Losi I ever had was the 'hybrid', the mod'ed BK2 that people ran before the full CR. For some reason I never thought the CR was as good as the hybrid. So I built my own 2wd......

G

i had a cr it drove really nice but it just did not put any sort of times in its a bit like a bj4 drive a 95% and its good any more and it just goes to pieces i would seriously look at a b4 or x6 mate

[Garry Driffill]

I think the X-6 has to be one of my favourite 2wd's ive ever had - The concept just seems to work really well

[bert digler]

Originally Posted by Garry Driffill

I think the X-6 has to be one of my favourite 2wd's ive ever had - The concept just seems to work really well

so why move backwards does f1 have a motor at the back

[samd]

Whats a hybrid BK2? A BK2 with a XXX gearbox?

[Tom3012]

Originally Posted by samd

Whats a hybrid BK2? A BK2 with a XXX gearbox?

and some other bits and bobs... think its like this... http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/losi2wdprototype/

[IceMike]

i had a kinwald thought it was the worse car i have ever owned an i was so glad when i sold it for 20quid, thought i would have to pay to give it away

[paulj]

Originally Posted by samd

Whats a hybrid BK2? A BK2 with a XXX gearbox?

it's not a BK2 with a XXX gearbox as the BK2 was already a XXX.

Some of the bits I recall included cutting the steering mounts off and moving them, cutting out the front of the battery tray so the cells were mounted fwd against the servo, lead filled front bulkhead/arm mount, rear arms were reversed, new holes drilled further out on the arms to mount the shocks, CVD's replaced with UJ driveshafts, rear chassis plate and pivot block from the XX CR. In fact it may have been the full XX CR rear end, gearcase, motor plate, etc, but I'm not 100% sure on this. Many team drivers used the Trinity alloy hubs as the had extra options for the ball mount, I think the ball mount fitted into the top of the hub so you could alter roll centre too?

All in all a lot of work and many decided enough was enough and just went out and bought/switched to a B4...

[Northy]

The steering cranks are in the same place it just has a new rack.
XX-CR inner pivot I think.
BK2 rear wishbones?
Truck rear uprights.

Best Losi I've ever driven.

G

[paulj]

Ellis was cutting out the steering mounts on the hybrid to alter the geometry of the steering, I'm pretty sure Doughty had his the same. The complete rack mounts were cut out and turned around - I think to shift them forward and reduce bump steer. I'm sure there were even some pics on the web of Ellis modding the steering for other team drivers at one of the nationals, possibly on the original DoughtyUK forum.

[Northy]

Yes, but they either did that and used the original set-up or fitted the metal steering link as shown in the pictures, not both Did the same sort of thing.

G

[Lee]

Why did they design it to have no steering ?