Tyre choices for wooden floor

[Charger]

Hi everyone, i've read that the main tyre used for wooden floor is schumacher mini spikes in yellow compound and I run these myself but I was wondering if anyone has found a break through in a new tyre for example, schumacher mini spikes but in the softer silver compound or perhaps a completely different tyre?

Any suggestions are welcome!

[discostu]

Hi

we have been racing on wooden floor for the best part of 25 years at our club FORCC now it is fair to say schumacher full spikes are the normal the car is very easy to get fast as the setup doesn't have to be spit on the full spikes take a while to scrub in however

Schumacher mini spikes also work the advantages are the scrub in much faster but the setup of the car needs to be better in my opinion the mini spikes don't like to be thrown around like the full spikes.

Both of these in yellow

Having said that blue mini spikes work well as well they take long to scrub in than yellow mini spikes but less time than yellow full spikes the blues don't generate the grip like the yellows mini spikes but on a tight twisty track the car rotates better as long as the car holds corner speed.

At out club soft schumacher blocks seem ok as well I've not tried them but some reasonable results are being seen.

Stu rand

Check out the faversham off road car club thread and watch some of the resent videos

[discostu]

See link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kueZC6exaSE

[discostu]

I was running mini spikes the blue car in front all other cars in that race was on full spikes except the blue and red car at the back but they were brand new unscrubed mini spikes

Pretty much it's your choice.

Stu

[Charger]

Originally Posted by discostu

Hi

we have been racing on wooden floor for the best part of 25 years at our club FORCC now it is fair to say schumacher full spikes are the normal the car is very easy to get fast as the setup doesn't have to be spit on the full spikes take a while to scrub in however

Schumacher mini spikes also work the advantages are the scrub in much faster but the setup of the car needs to be better in my opinion the mini spikes don't like to be thrown around like the full spikes.

Both of these in yellow

Having said that blue mini spikes work well as well they take long to scrub in than yellow mini spikes but less time than yellow full spikes the blues don't generate the grip like the yellows mini spikes but on a tight twisty track the car rotates better as long as the car holds corner speed.

At out club soft schumacher blocks seem ok as well I've not tried them but some reasonable results are being seen.

Stu rand

Check out the faversham off road car club thread and watch some of the resent videos

Hi, thanks for the quick reply. The tyre choices are pretty much the same as my club, I agree that the full spikes are easy to drive with and very forgiving. A lot of people at my club will put on full spikes for the first couple of heats if the floor is really dusty (from previous nights of dancing or whatever goes on!) and then put on mini spikes later on as the dust clears away.

I was also thinking about trying the schumacher/core-rc multi bows or multi blocks as they look quite similar to the mini spikes, but I'm not sure because they could be more for dirt tracks. They're still an option though.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Charger

Hi, thanks for the quick reply. The tyre choices are pretty much the same as my club, I agree that the full spikes are easy to drive with and very forgiving. A lot of people at my club will put on full spikes for the first couple of heats if the floor is really dusty (from previous nights of dancing or whatever goes on!) and then put on mini spikes later on as the dust clears away.

I was also thinking about trying the schumacher/core-rc multi bows or multi blocks as they look quite similar to the mini spikes, but I'm not sure because they could be more for dirt tracks. They're still an option though.

I think you will find its not the pattern it's more the rubber the core milti bow are synthetic rubber un like the schumacher rubber at our club we have pretty much tried every tire compound pattern there is and schumachers yellows are the way forward in any pattern.

[terry.sc]

Does no one use silicone any more?

Until we got carpet 25 years ago our top racers all used silicone coated buggy tyres. The tyres were pretty useless back then, Schumacher soft full spikes were about the best around, but we cut the spikes off and coated the tyres in silicone sealant and rolled them together to give a stippled surface, and when the silicone wore out you just recoated them. Don't know whether it would last too long with today's motors though.

[Charger]

Originally Posted by discostu

I think you will find its not the pattern it's more the rubber the core milti bow are synthetic rubber un like the schumacher rubber at our club we have pretty much tried every tire compound pattern there is and schumachers yellows are the way forward in any pattern.

Hi, it's the same with my club, lots of tyres have been tried and the yellow compound schumachers always seem to be the best. Do different foam inserts make a big difference?

[Charger]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

Does no one use silicone any more?

Until we got carpet 25 years ago our top racers all used silicone coated buggy tyres. The tyres were pretty useless back then, Schumacher soft full spikes were about the best around, but we cut the spikes off and coated the tyres in silicone sealant and rolled them together to give a stippled surface, and when the silicone wore out you just recoated them. Don't know whether it would last too long with today's motors though.

Hi, that sounds like a good idea, they would probably be quite sticky and the silicone would be quite a bit cheaper to buy instead of tyres when they would wear out. I could try it because I have a spare pair of full spikes lying about.

[AfroP]

Ballistic buggy whites were tested at my club and were found to have similar grip characteristics to yellow mini spikes but with far less wear
our hall isnt quite polished wood though, more a varnished cork type of surface

[Charger]

Originally Posted by AfroP

Ballistic buggy whites were tested at my club and were found to have similar grip characteristics to yellow mini spikes but with far less wear
our hall isnt quite polished wood though, more a varnished cork type of surface

Hi, a tyre that grips well and doesn't wear out too quickly, is a good tyre, if they are similar to yellow mini spikes on cork, then they are probably going to be similar on polished wood (hopefully!)

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Charger

Hi, it's the same with my club, lots of tyres have been tried and the yellow compound schumachers always seem to be the best. Do different foam inserts make a big difference?

I've personally have tried prettying all inserts and always came back around to schumacher tubby medium or similar

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Charger

Hi, a tyre that grips well and doesn't wear out too quickly, is a good tyre, if they are similar to yellow mini spikes on cork, then they are probably going to be similar on polished wood (hopefully!)

Yeah but the tyre still needs yo be fast enough or there is no point racing.

[Pacman]

At a club I raced at in the 90's we always used blue 2 row studs on front and back on 4wds. We even put the inner edge of the tyre in one more groove to make the tyres bend more. It was a bit like ice racing cars!

Has anyone tried just using yellow staggered ribs?

[Charger]

Originally Posted by Pacman

At a club I raced at in the 90's we always used blue 2 row studs on front and back on 4wds. We even put the inner edge of the tyre in one more groove to make the tyres bend more. It was a bit like ice racing cars!

Has anyone tried just using yellow staggered ribs?

Hi, can you get staggered ribs for the wider rear wheels?

[Charger]

Originally Posted by discostu

Yeah but the tyre still needs yo be fast enough or there is no point racing.

Hi, I agree, otherwise you may aswell have plastic drift tyres on the car!