Orion Vortex ESC Settings.

[andys]

I've run the Orion Speedo's now for a little while, and all seems well except a few things.

I thought i'd got my head around the 'boost' and 'turbo' but in my 2wd I don't really seem to be getting the extra burst of speed i'm after down the straights - I can't really feel the speedo / motor timng kicking in?

My settings are:
Boost Timing - 8 (my understanding is that this is the OVERALL timing, i.e all the time)
Turbo Timing - 10 (my understanding is that this is the extra timing only on FULL throttle)
Turbo Slope - 24deg (not sure what this is or what it does......)
Turbo Delay - 0.3 (Delay on full throttle before TURBO timing is added ??)

I have updated the firmware via the PC and I noted that a few settings are greyed out in the PC software when connecting the ESC - in the advance tab, the Boost Start RPM is greyed out and set at 1000rpm and also the Boost timing AAC is greyed out and set to 50rpm/deg.

How's everyone else getting on with these speedo's?
All is well, apart from not really feeling the changes significantly, I only really notice an extra turn of speed when setting the Boost to max - which I assume is just altering the timing throughtout the entire rev range.

Cheers.
Andy

[RudeTony]

Originally Posted by andys

I can't really feel the speedo / motor timng kicking in?

My settings are:
Boost Timing - 8 (my understanding is that this is the OVERALL timing, i.e all the time)
Boost timing is progressive - settings are from 0-16

Turbo Timing - 10 (my understanding is that this is the extra timing only on FULL throttle)
The amount of turbo is between 0-20 - 20 being the highest
The settings below is how the turbo kicks in - this is the amount

Turbo Slope - 24deg (not sure what this is or what it does......)
This is how quick the turbo kicks in - when you flip through the settings you will see there is a setting for the fastest too - I personally like 18 - it comes in smooth

Turbo Delay - 0.3 (Delay on full throttle before TURBO timing is added ??)
No - this is how long after you hit full throttle the turbo comes in.
On a 0.3 setting might be the reason you are not feeling the turbo as its probably in before the motor has reached its peak. If as an example you had it set at lets say, 0.9 then the motor winds up and then you feel the difference of when the turbo comes in. I like mine around the 0.4 or 0.5 sec depending on track size and lenghth of straight

Hope some of that helps you

[andys]

Cheers Tony - appreciate the info.

I'll try altering the 0.3 to 0.5 or higher and see what happens.

Any tips for a good starting point re settings ?

I run an Orion esc in 4wd, with Orion 6.5 (Durango 410)
I run another Orion esc in a 210, with an Orion 7.5 (Durango 210)

Cheers.

Andy

[RudeTony]

Andy

Good choice in 2wd and 4wd - that is what I normally run.
It is difficult to give a set up to anyone without knowing and experiencing a track.
May I suggest trying the various on your normal track and finding what suits you.
Remember the timing clock never lies.
Although i have to upload more and will be doing so very soon.
Have a look at my personal website for some set ups.
Let us know how you get on
www.tonyevdoka.com

[Peakki]

Originally Posted by andys

I thought i'd got my head around the 'boost' and 'turbo' but in my 2wd I don't really seem to be getting the extra burst of speed i'm after down the straights - I can't really feel the speedo / motor timng kicking in?

My settings are:
Boost Timing - 8 (my understanding is that this is the OVERALL timing, i.e all the time)
Turbo Timing - 10 (my understanding is that this is the extra timing only on FULL throttle)
Turbo Slope - 24deg (not sure what this is or what it does......)
Turbo Delay - 0.3 (Delay on full throttle before TURBO timing is added ??)

I have updated the firmware via the PC and I noted that a few settings are greyed out in the PC software when connecting the ESC - in the advance tab, the Boost Start RPM is greyed out and set at 1000rpm and also the Boost timing AAC is greyed out and set to 50rpm/deg.
Andy

Do you have enough traction that you would notice the turbo?
If your gearing is long, turbo might not help at all because the motor cannot wind up.
If your straight is short, lets say 20metres or less, you should have a short gearing and a low turbo delay value (0.2secs).
Of course, the longer the straight, bit longer gearing and longer turbo delay.

The key is that your car/surface must have enough traction and motor time to spool up to max revs+and then after delay, the turbo kicks in.

On my 4WD (running on clay) I don't use boost at all, it usually affects the throttle feeling (making it worser). This is how the pro's run on clay also (check Tebo and Cavalieri setups from Orion website).
Sometimes I use some turbo (10-15deg) with delay of 0.2 or 0.3 secs. Pro drivers doesn't seem to use even this...

And about those greyed boxes, the only way to change those is to change the firmware from the standard mod-->stock one.
You can use same settings with the stock firmware too, but have more tuning options. Maximum values for boost and turbo goes up also.
I'm using stock firmware with 1/12 MOD and standard mod software in my 4WD with 6.5-7.5T motors.