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Originally Posted by skyaflake
Erm. Can't interpret? Look at all (i mean, seriously, the cars are loaded) the cars the team drivers are running. People see all those parts. You must understand they will never release a kit that team drivers run, but they went the cheap way now. I mean (even though it's not final yet) plastic shocktowers? Plastic steering parts? That stuff didn't came standard on the YZ-2, they went premium on that car and look how it payed off: YZ-2 is doing fine worldwide. The only downside what they did with the YZ-2 is that they didn't make a lot of profit per kit. But yeah, they earn more on parts than on kits anyway. I guess they went the "cheap" way to get more money in. Come on, go a bit more premium and people will be more satisfied. As posted above, the K2 (not that i'm going to drive one, ill get myself a YZ4 anyway) is "much" more bang for buck out of the box.
If you compare the YZ-4 to the B-Max4 III, the B-Max4 III looks much better when you compare the parts.
I know, kit isn't final yet (Carbon towers wouldn't surprise me at all). But yes, some people are disappointed, maybe you are not, but you will max out your car anyway. Some people don't, some people want decent cars out of the box - I don't say the YZ-4 isn't decent. But you pay a fair amount of money, so yeah, some Alu would be fine. Just like the YZ-2.
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Ah ok, I'd not seen the photos of the "release" kit on the mibosport site, only the shots from lee's car (and others at the worlds), and the ones I took of Tom's. Also referring back to the cars I've seen in person, which do feature lots of alloy bits.
The allow bits to exist now, so it would make sense to release a blinged up box at a higher price point. I know which I'd buy from the off, but you're right, I'll stick the fancy bits on anyway.
I'm no too worried by plastic shock towers (over carbon), they will be pretty durable (did anyone ever break a bmax2 tower?), but yes some of the pulleys and steering parts would be best in alloy in the box. Roll bars will be needed, so at least a kit pair should be included.
I think the price, spec and pitch of the YZ2 kit was right. It wasn't cheap, though felt a high quality piece of kit out the box, but they have still managed to release lots of nice (but not essential) hop ups, hubs, rear bulkhead servo posts, which don't need to be in the kit. I balance needs to be struck I think.
I'm still not disappointed though, stuff like this is what it is. Either you buy into a platform and run with it, or pick something else.
By comparison, Schumacher have the a pretty bad record in (my mind) for releasing a kit, then selling every possible "essential" or team upgrade going. Plus their plastic is made of jacobs crackers. I still think they are good cars. The most I ever spent in one year on one car was was my xray XB4 ('13). I've not spent half of that in two years on my bmax4iii, and it's still a far batter car!