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Originally Posted by Sam Mughal
... The 'poor show' situation, I think that the race director may have been uncomfortable to have the young lad driving around between heats as he wouldn't be covered by BRCA( he needs to be 'entered in the event' to be allowed on track even with the 3 race rule). Had the race director explained this to Duncan in a better way I'm sure Duncan would have been more than happy to pay the nominal fee so his son could run his car round and everybody would have had a better day.
Keep up the good work guys and I'm sure ALL clubs will follow or fold.
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Originally Posted by MattW
So it's clear that the person at the club got it wrong, and probably didn't approach it in the best way.
However, let's considder it from his point of view. He was asked about a situation that he thought gave him a problem (potentially it didn't, but that's another issue). He saw what he thought might be a potentially dangerious situation in that someone who he didn't believe would be covered by insurance, should something go wrong. He's faced with 2 options that that point: a) stop it from happening at all, or b) allow what he believed could be that dangerious situation happen, that wouldn't be covered by insurance, that if something did go wrong, he could face personal responsibility / liability / ruin from.
Still think he did the wrong thing?? For what it's worth, I don't. It's very easy to say "well it's not a problem, there is the 3 time rule" we all know that now, but at that moment in time, he didn't realise that and has therefor gone with the cautious option. It's sad, that it's the "where there's blame, there's a claim" culture that we live in now has probably caused this decision.
He probably should have known about the 3 time rule, and he probably should have approached it in a different way. However, at least look at it from his point of view, if he was unsure he has to go with the safest option really.
Personally (as someone who is involved in running a club) I'd like to think that a) I do know the rule and hence it wouldn't have happened, but if I was unsure, I'd always go with the safe option - although hopefully explain it in a better way.
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Originally Posted by fletcher
something else to note, does this 3 time rule count for some one who is "not" booked into the race meeting? I.e someone who wants to run around between heats isn't actually booked into the meeting
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Jim Spencer...
Anyway
The above folk all have it right - it's '3 visits' to a club, to try the sport.
- or any other event for that matter, it also works for public "Have a Go's" too, right up to the large events (at major public Venue's) we take the demo fleets to.
Anybody has any queries you can always drop me a note
[email protected]"
The concern is that someone who said authoritatively that the guy's lad couldn't race did not in fact know the BRCA rules. The poster's above cannot have it both ways - excluding the kid for perceived risk due to not having insurance because it is a BRCA rule when in fact the rule is quite clear and the question should have been to ascertain if the kid had raced before.
Then Jim comes along and says "if you have a question ask me" and still people post things that are speculation! No one can remember all the Rules to the letter. As an official in a club, BRCA Section and IFMAR Electric Section Chairman, I never could. I always carried a rule book with me and when queries arose referred to it.
Not only does that help to ensure that I got it right, but it makes explanations to questioners much easier - refer to the Rulebook and explain the situation. It worked for me every time.
We need club officials and volunteers, they are the life blood of our sport. I don't mean this to be a criticism of the guy here. It is up to the rest of us to stop posting all this speculation and shouts for naming and shaming. See the post above from the young guy who gave up helping - we are part of that.
I've got me coat, I suggest we all do that!