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Originally Posted by andy110m
Morning All,
I've a few points starting with where is this astro going to go? We don't really have the space to extend the track.
The second is beginners could be put off by multi surface and jumps. They want to learn and develop car control to get round the track without crashing. They aren't, at this stage anyway, interested in learning to fly doubles.
Last point, Why would astro mean the end of foams? Foams work reasonably well on astro, a chap at SRCC sometimes runs foams at their outdoor track. All a racer will do is look to see which gives the best lap time. If 80 or 90% of the track is flat carpet, cars will still be at min ride height, very firm and on the best tyre for the majority of the track.
Final last point, I promise. As Janice said, the core of the club want to turn up and race in a fun, family environment. They don't want to worry about conforming to rules and specifications. If I'm wrong and they do, why not enforce the BRCA lipo and motor lists? That way we could turn most people away and ruin the club very quickly because it seems to me that's what this and most of the other ill conceived and self serving suggestions will do.
RVRCCC is a great fun club which works. Tinker with the fringe things if you want, any chance of bottles instead of cans in the tuck shop please and maybe add or reduce 20p to a transponder rental but please guys, lets all realise what this very successful club is about and leave the core framework alone.
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Andy,
Your missing the point and continuing to carry on posting on the other thread when you have been asked not to do so - These are very simple rules that you should be able to comply with "Keep the proposals short and to the point and no long discussions" - For clarity this means stop posting on the other thread now youve had your say.
With regards your above post
1) the extra carpet (or as we are suggesting Astro) already has committe approval from last year, so space must not be an issue.
2) The youngsters actually perform better over the jumps - if you paid attention to what happened last year, when I altered the hump back jump they actually loved it and, performed much better, breakages and crashes wherre substantially reduced.
3) Yes foams will work on short pile astro - again read the previous posts where we are suggesting long pile astro and more jumps - You will naturally have to raise ride height then to accomodate the jumps and you will find there is little difference in performace of the two types of tyre then - Oh and for clarity I dont buy the foams are substantially cheeper arguement because as previously said they chunk, you need attitive - its more difficult for the youngsters as, you have to be in the know to be able to buy a set.
4) Most youngsters buy a ready to run kit off the shelf which is usually pre-built to Off Road buggy spec - so there ride height will be more in tune with the suitibly altered track. - If they want to learn in a on road flat track environment then buy a GT12 not a Off Road Buggy (The clues in the name)
5) with regards Fringe things - I consider the above to be Fringe things without altering the make up of the club - we all love the family atmosphere of the club and the excellent manner in which its run
6) Who mentioned running to BRCA Rules - again read the proposals - the worst it means is that someone checks the ride heights and tyre type, which will only take checking for a month or so before all you will need are spot checks.
Now I suggest we leave it there for others to have there say - you might even find some others agree with you and dont want any change - but carrying on forcing your point is loosing your argument credibility.