[darryl]

agree with you there steve,and as im probably older than you,we did respect our elders and other peoples property as they were not adverse to giving you a clip around the earhole,we hung around on corners in our teens but that was as far as it went,there was none of this happy slapping etc,a form of mutual respect was in order,fortunatly i live in a quieter part of york on the outskirts and it's very rare to see an unruly element around our end which is a god send,but i myself would cause major pain to however tried to get in or damage my property or personal property or harrass my wife and kids,so it is a shame about the grief you are getting around your end and i hope you catch the scum,reasonable force or not jimmy they deserve evrything thats coming to them