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Originally Posted by SlowOne
Jimmy, it is disappointing that you asked for debate, and then lay into the people who disagree with your view and start that debate! It is almost as if someone has hacked your user-name and turned cool-Jimmy into troll-Jimmy.
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Sorry boss but I asked for debate not attacking - Terry admitted being a bit bored I think and he must have spent a fair while attacking everything I'd written but in such a way that it was like he's not even read it, or if he had, he's misunderstood somehow. When I see a huge post that attacks everything I said in what I see as a purely argumentative manner - then fair enough, I will admit I tried to reply to his original post but everything he said was just plainly wrong that I got frustrated and gave up replying.
If you know what I know, then maybe you would think differently - but that's why we have different opinions. I am not invested into my opinions like I want to hammer them home - yes touring cars would be better if instead of spec bathtubs they had spec real cars. People would look at them and think, cor! Want to get racing that.
I think the biggest class in Japan is........... Drift? It's not 'racing' and I confess I don't really get it, I like drifting, but I don't understand the competition side.
Why is drifting big, hmmmm - thinking.... thinking.
You have a list of approved shells - what does it take to say, approve some others instead? It's just an idea that would be COOL. If you think that flame-painted bathtubs look cool then your opinion is invalid
haha.
So, am I right or am I wrong.
Terry picked up on this and said the following:
If your complaint is that they don't look realistic, why aren't you also complaining that buggies look even further from the real thing. If touring cars should be running scale replica shells then buggies should have live axles and a cage like the Axial Wraith, not something that bears no resemblance to the real thing.
What sort of attitude is it to start attacking someone that way. Do YOU think it's right? Terry says I'm complaining - well, no, I wasn't. He says 'why aren't you also'...... etc..... Well who's the guy who loves realistic looking buggies the most here? Oh, it's me. Who's the most vocal and constantly takes the mick about cab forward shells - erm, me again. If you care to read my original post, you will see in there that I did just that, but Terry attacks me for NOT doing it...... What planet are you people on
Let's pick another random quote....
You are assuming that a small increase in battery voltage won't make a difference in all other classes.
Right - well I clearly said the opposite to this. I said in off road it is not something people would do. In stock or other classes maybe. So - again, why is terry attacking what I've said - and in turn, why are YOU attacking what I said since you agree with him, when in actual fact you're both misquoting me!
Terry put words in my mouth that I never said - what the hell!
Hmmm, ok, one more.
I would ask around the 1/12th racers then. They have seen several lipo fires in their pits.
I'm not interested - it's already mentioned I think by Terry in this thread that 12th racers cheat or some try to. So then, what does this have to do with what I was talking about. A lipo fire yeah, never seen one personally - nimh's exploding, seen lots and genuinely frightning. Not sure why 12th scale keeps cropping up in a conversation about 10th off road but hey.
Ah, I could go on with every single point Terry aggressively made - and by admittance, you yourself agree with.
Lets take my question about fractions of a mm on lipo cells. Terry replied to my question with this:
Because there is a maximum size and the manufacturers should take that into consideration.
Sort of bypassing the point that I was talking about fractions of a mm and that by admission - they expect racers to measure their cells in a shop before buying. If you don't believe me, ASK. Don't assume I'm making this up.
There's no 'advantage' to bigger packs of cells for 10th off road - people are using smaller packs! So, why has my question been attacked.
This sort of argument to a common sense question is just silly:
Okay, lets allow a car with slightly longer axles to pass scrutineering. Then what is to stop another manufacturer making their buggy wider, because you can't argue that it's not allowed while allowing someone else to run with a slightly oversize car.
Let's use COMMON SENSE not be blinkered. Those wheel nuts don't give an advantage - stop putting words in my mouth that cars will suddenly become 3ft wide... COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!
If you think I'm a wanker - again, it's ok, I am a nob fair enough. But I love this hobby and a thread posing questions and suggesting off the wall ideas shouldn't just be picked apart with false arguments and misquotes.
End of the day I was talking about 10th off road - I was talking about common sense. If you think common sense is bad and that rules made in secret are ok, then cool.
I don't have hard feelings either way - Terry is a good guy I'm sure, but he's just plain wrong, as are you sir, since you totally and utterly misread what I said and misread what Terry said in response. I've tried to point this out to you above but hey. We all have different opinions - that's why you now think I'm a tosser for having a pop back at Terry, but can't see that he was having a pop at me. It's all good, it's all useful - this thread might come to blows but that's progress. Secret meetings and forced-through decisions aren't cool.
You are free to PM or email me and I will tell you some secrets that will change your mind. It's up to you if you want to know what I know.
