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Old 07-02-2013
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Originally Posted by jimmy View Post
Terry - you can't read and you either agreed with me in your replies or misunderstood, or just went off on a tangent. You have absolutely no clue sir, no clue at all.

If someone wants to start racing where would you suggest they go, oOple or BRCA website for info? I know what I think, I know I'm a helpful considerate guy - and I also see outside the box that you're stuck in.

If you think I'm a wanker - call me a wanker - don't dick about. I call it like I see it - why you keep ranting on about 12th scale I've no idea. We don't overcharge cells in 10th off road, end of.
I think you're completely out of touch, not sure if I mentioned that, but you are.
My point is that your opinion is entirely focused on 1/10th off road. The Electric Board and the homologation lists were all created for the on road classes, and they will always be there.

If you have a problem with the motor and lipo rules and the EB lists in off road, then the solution is to propose and convince your fellow racers to vote to not use them at the AGM.

Complaining because you don't agree with the EB rules and want to change them isn't going to happen unless you can persuade all the other electric classes that use them to control their equipment isn't going to happen. All the motor and battery rules have been put there for the good of the racers who want to use the lists.

I have raced in most electric categories, both on and off road. Different classes have completely different needs and should be treated separately. So off road has got more power than grip, that's great. But there are many other classes that need to limit what motors and batteries are used, and need to try and keep a level playing field.

So off road doesn't overcharge their lipos because there is no need to. Fine, so therefore it's a rule that buggy racers would never break anyway. Getting every last bit of voltage is why we all bought IB4200s because they had less than a tenth of a volt higher average discharge voltage. Other classes with motor limits use bigger and bigger capacity lipos because again it gives a slightly higher average voltage during the race. In other classes it can make a big difference so you can't dismiss a general rule for all sections just because it wouldn't make a difference in off road. Deciding it's stupid just because buggy racers don't do it is deliberately ignoring every other electric class that is run. Go watch a touring car national and see how they will do everything to get every last fraction of a second out of their car. personally I think they all take it way too seriously considering we are just playing with toy cars for a hobby.

The voltage limit is also a nice simple way of protecting the BRCA from liability, you want to overcharge your cells then go ahead but the BRCA won't be helping you if you set fire to the hall you are in. If you are wanting changes to general rules you really want to think further afield than just off road, after all no one would be happy if the touring car boys were imposing rules on the off road sections. Being 'in touch' with what buggy racers think doesn't mean you are in touch with all other sections.

If you have a problem with any rule and the majority of racers in your section think the same then there is nothing stopping you changing it. That's the whole point of the AGM, if you or anyone else thinks a rule is stupid or unworkable there is nothing stopping anyone proposing a change and getting it voted in.

And if someone wanted to know the best place for advice to start racing I would always recommend going to their local club first. Then whether they are on Oople or Racechat they would get the same advice from me.

You are the one that wanted to open up a debate.
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