Oh, and FWIW, most of the chinese sourced stuff is pretty good, until it goes wrong, then its only fit for the bin. Or carving up to put custom electronics/optics in.
Most i know of, specifically the stuff badged as magicshine and another one that has completely slipped my mind, are good for a winters use, then tend to pack in as soon as you crack them out for the seconds winters use, or a night ride in the summer.
The torches are a different matter altogether, they just keep going until you smash them.
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