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this is what I don't get. When Harry's were announced I'm sure I read something about you had ID's on them rather than clones. so you could have your number with ID 1 and 2. like 5128225:1 and 5128225:2, etc, etc.

then that would stop clones trigging the loop a second faster than the car moving over the line.

but BBK don't remember any of that when I mentioned it to them.


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Originally Posted by bbkRob View Post
The reason why you MYLAPS won't make you an indistinguishable copy of your transponder is that the whole point of a unique number is to make cheating impossible. Remember their market is all of motorsport and unquestionable race results are vital. If you don't know how to cheat with a clone I'll tell you.

Get your mate to put a powered clone in his trouser bottoms and as you are coming round on your last lap, get him to go close to the loop. There are plenty of tracks where this is possible. Most timing software sets the decoder in standard mode where it will ignore duplicate transponder signals for 2 seconds after the first detection. If your mate is handy, no one will ever know. Its a bit more difficult with bbkRC because the decoder is in speed trap mode, so it sends every passing. You may have noticed a nasty noise if someone fumbles on the loop and crosses it more than once in a short space of time. That is the only clue that something might be wrong. Getting a 2 second advantage on a couple of results might be the difference between an A or B final. Imagine that at a worlds? I have no proof that this has ever happened because there is no way I, or anyone can prove it after the event. As long as there is only one transponder in the world with a given number, if that number is detected at a particular time then the car it is in must have been there. If there are two transponders with the same number then you can't be certain. Ever.

MYLAPS have stated that they will make transponders with the same Number, but there is a Car ID which will be different for each transponder with the same number. This Car ID will be exposed to the timing system so the Timekeeper will know if a different transponder is used. Depending on the event this might be quite acceptable, or it might not. The important thing is that it will be known to have happened.

Let me finish by telling you what I was told a few days ago by a well known Official in our sport.

"Consider this. A driver buys a new PT off you, he then send it off for cloning. When he gets it back he sells it on as brand new, never been in a car. The person who buys it has no way of knowing that it has been cloned and he thinks he has a unique number. Of course this is fine until he turns up at a meeting with the person who sold him the transponder." Do you know someone who would do that?

If you want multiple MYLAPS transponders with the same Transponder number (but different car ID) you can have them but not yet, and before you ask I don't have a date. You can buy one now (which has car ID 0) and have a same number transponder with a different Car ID in the future.

But relax, you don't actually have to buy anything.
That was posted in 2009
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