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Originally Posted by LongRat
Can't help but think that despite the amount of effort put in by James, this is a token rule only. A club can run 8 AA cells and a brushed 380 motor in Mardave if they wish - they do not need a BRCA recommendation to do it. Unless there is a class at Nationals with 2S I don't see much point creating a rule for it.
Perhaps someone who was there can comment - do the BRCA see this as a 'testing the water' rule? I.e. if a lot of clubs adopt 2S then maybe next year there will be a class at National events run to those rules?
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That's a bit patronising, isn't it? I'll try not to patronise you when telling you why your post is badly informed. Here's why...
There is no equivalence between 2S and 1S at all - nada, zilch, nowt. However hard we have tried with classes of pan cars, we have learnt the hard way that on certain tracks you need 2S and on others you need 1S. The last thing we need to do is create a situation where people wanting to race at Nationals have to have two cars. Additionally, the testing done so far was with motors claiming to have 'zero' timing built in. That's not the case with all motors on the BRCA 21.5 list. The meeting discussed this and it was stated that if the 21.5 motor used had additional timing it would be faster than a 1S combo, and that the 2S cars had more lift out of the turns. Whilst we all appreciated the work James put in, and the excellence of his presentation of the proposal, the meeting realised that we did not want to repeat the mistakes of the past by trying to run 1S and 2S in the same class and pretending they are equivalent.
Equally, a lot of people have invested a lot of time and money in the Rules for 2011/2012 which were for 1S LiPo/4-cell NiMh. Why would we make them invest all over again by allowing 2S/21.5 which we know will eventually wipe the floor with a 1S? That's not a good thing to do to a class we are trying to get off the ground as cost-effective, competitive and fun. The problem is not the cells, it is running the speedos with a 1S cell. We need to solve the 'booster' problem, not the cell problem.
Of course a Club can run what it likes, that is what Clubs are for. Nonetheless, it is because there are BRCA Rules that people can go out and buy kit knowing it will allow them to race with anyone, anywhere in the same class. All Clubs use BRCA Rules all the time!! Many Clubs want to use variations on those Rules that have been put together for them, and so it was decided to put some Rules in the GT12 Section for them to use. If you allow any 21.5 motor in a mixed 1S/2S class, eventually everyone will have to run 2S to be competitive. I don't think forcing that investment on your Club members is your best plan to keep a healthy Club. My firm advice to any Club wanting to use 1S and 2S cars in the same races is to find a 21.5 motor that is equivalent on your club circuit, specify it and no other, and then stick to it.
If you don't want to use them, then don't. But please do not assume that because your Club is able to effectively set up a class for AA batteries and 380 motors, then everyone is. Just because you don't see the point doesn't mean there isn't one, it just means you can't see it. (Bugger - failed in my mission not to be patronising...)
2S is not an equivalent to 1S and can never be. We put the Rule in so that Clubs can have something to help them get 2S cars into their Club nights if they they feel more people will enjoy what is a very competitive and close class that is fun to drive.
We are not testing any water - it has already been tested and it's contaminated. It is there for Clubs to use if they wish, and for the GT12 Committee to bring it in as a stand-alone class in the future if they wish. No rule is token. If a rule is there it can be used, it it isn't it can't. HTH
