Nope neither, my old ten was rapid, and even got noticed by the then yokomo team manager Brian Duggan who said it was like a missile. The 4.5 is quick and my gearing is 10.5 to one, so better than the 14.1 recommendation by Orion/Peak. Ok I havent done my ten double ratio yet which was around the 8 to 1 mark but not to bothered at the moment, as it was quicker than anything else at the event. Im more interested in setting my car up then I will see how fast i can get this motor before it overheats.
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