Thanks guys. The 2123 does look great doesnt it, all things to all men.
Andy, your little PDS-2413ICS, is that commonly used in 4WD or was it designed for TC's? - not saying its girly, cos i bet it looks so cool in the car (im digging a hole here....)
On the KO site it give torque in Oz only for the new servo's. The discontinued Servo's have the Torque in Oz and Kg but if you convert the figure in Oz into Kg you get a different answer so i guess the beam length used for the figure must be different? any ideas? im not a mech eng...
http://www.kopropo.com/servos.htm
http://www.kopropo.com/discontinued_servos.htm