Thanks everyone for the advice it sure does look like the Hobbywing is the same (butcheaper) than a lot of other units. I eventually went for an Orca Vritra. My local shop (RCLazy) have been using one in a DEX410 with 7.5 motor and lots of timing advance without issues.
Apex models were sellking them at £124, and thats with the program card, so a simular price to the Hobbywing.
As the battery posts are opposite the motor ones the install was quite good, with fewer cables near the centre fwd shaft.
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