Your missing my point, a B4 will work, mechanically, out of the box, from the get go, a madrat/mad monkey/x2c/x-pro won't, I have own all of them, I even did a build review on here when the X-Pro came out.
Anyhows, the Ansmann are ok, if you got someone experienced to help you overcome stuff that is not mentioned in the manual and get you going.
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