I've just got a 400d with the kit lens (18-55) and it realy is better than I thought it would be. (although compared to my previous camera the canon is light years ahead anyway) But I obviously had it because it came with the kit, and if I had a choice I would probably choose a different lense with a bit more range or a f2.8 lens, but that will have to wait until I have a little more dosh because they are a bit expensive.