peetbee thanks for the info bout the sizes i was wondering ,nah ya aint put me off lol!..
slow bob 70mph with nimh sounds 'xitin'

wouldnt you get more power with 2s lipo than 6 nimh 7.4 over 7.2?
battleaxe after more deliberating im looking into a monster max pro setup(5700kv with 3s) and then an extra motor to use with that esc (2.5t-3.5t),unless a mamba monster comes up then il wack that in and try n rip the wheels off

but any other crazy ideas keep em coming !