Cheers guys your input is really helpfull, and yes I do admit to avoiding the transition into the 21st century and lipo's haha
just borrowed a pulsar 3 charger and the suspect cells appear to be accepting charge when I charge them individually. Planning to charge each cell individually then discharge the whole pack down to 5.4v. Try this a couple times then use the cycle function on the charger and see what happens.
Here's hoping it works
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