Some success - took a brass washer, filed it down to the correct outside diameter and when it sat in the right position it did do the job but.... it wasn't a perfect fit on the inside diameter,so slipped around a bit, wasn't 5mm think it was AF of some similar size.... will try to find some 5mm washer and try again.
Also, think I will have to go the route of aluminium 12mm Hex nuts to firm things up further..... As always, will have to get 2 sets as my son and I both run Mad Rats.... can't do anything on mine and not on his!
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