Frogger - I did mention that some stuff from China is as good as anthing anyone makes. It certainly is not all sh*t, although a fair bit of it is.
They work hard, and are clever, although not innovative. They train more Engineer's and Scientists every year than we do in, ohh I dunnno, 20 years or something. They are also ruthless & have no scuples in business.
It's important to realise that there is a 'price' to pay for outsourcing so much. Nowadays China has all the money, we have none. And that is not a good position to be in generally.
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