[Chrislong]

Guys, the sand has got to be dry sand, its very fine unlike beach sand and when dry it just falls into the astro - fill it up...

Then when the sand gets wet, it sticks in the astro for as long as the astro is layed.

Normal sand CAN be used along with anything else, it is a little harder to push into the astro and can come loose quicker than the right sand, but the Astro still works great.

Bury's astro is really good, don't know why paul was having a whinge, nobody else strugles, just got to brush it out of shocks after each round which is no big deal.

The astro on the artifical bitch at Goshen is the same stuff, they will have used to perfect sand and so people don't realise it is actually sand holding the Astro flat. Its actually about an inch deep and is quite flexibible, the sand makes it very very heavy and then it sits flat and has no pile to the top surface.

Chris