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Old 23-12-2009
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Personally I would consider the Thunder Tiger Phoenix 2 as an alternative to the the Stinger & Madrat
http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Thunder.../tt6540f32.htm

It's basically a rereleased Associated B3 and there are many hop ups available.

However, it's hard to argue against a secondhand B4, it depends what your budget is.
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