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Originally Posted by DaveG28
The difficulty in fixing the system in terms of people driving Ferrari's while others go hungry etc is how do you fix it?
Various people have already discussed the problem of scroungers staying at home on benefits, well the only way to stop the hunger is to pay them even more!! And punish the rich, how does that help create a culture of aspiration and hard work?? Don't get me wrong, I agree totally with the sentiment, just can't see how to achieve it!
Tbh I hate the rich bashing as much as I hate foreigner bashing, a few things people need to remember are:
1. Anyone complaining about "bankers" presumably has no private pension? Because it's the bankers hard work which creates extra value in those pensions!
2. They work incredibly hard in the city! Are they loaded, yes, the one guy I knew who went into the city had massive wall tv's, a flash car etc, but 6 mths after he bought the tv was still in the box because to get anywhere at all in the business they were expected to work 7am - 8pm Mon-Fri, all day Saturday on paperwork/planning etc, and show their faces every night at wherever the management are each night, blunty it breaks people!
3. Anyone who disagree's it's hard, well go and do it then, if it's so easy to get loaded.
4. If they've done it properly the gov will make a fortune on what they've pumped into the banking system!
5. "We need more manufacturing" is a total myth. If manufacturing made money we'd do it more already! What we need is to learn to make it profitable, not just pump money into it!! It's not just our labour laws either, although it partly is, other countries have similar labour laws and make it work. If we made manufacturing profitable then we'd do more of it!
P.S. I work in manufacturing!
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I have no problems with them getting paid well, for what they do, but there has been plenty of people, paid good bonuses, for systems that have failed, or, where the bank hasn't paid it's hard working minions a bonus, then given themselves millions, yes, they make decisions, but the mess they got the system into, they should at least make then bonuses smaller, so it is an easier figure to digest.
Bankers are at fault, for buying and selling toxic debt, a small number of the public are at fault, for taking loans/mortgages that you have no hope in hell of affording, and a government who let it happen, and then nearly bankrupt the country, bailing the banks out, but not using ANY of it's new influence it has in the bank, to make them change.
So, lets not bullshit about poor bankers..... I feel sorry for the people who have worked for 40 years, paid into a pension all his life, for it now to be worthless thanks to Gordon Brown pillaging it, and the banks squandering it.