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Originally Posted by emtee
Totally agree... he is making statements on national tv that I've heard said in every office and factory I've visited around this land (which is a lot..!) that's the idea of a "free" society... you should be able to say anything you like... that is a basic right that my dad and grandad, and lots of other peoples ancestors have fought for...
Nic Griffin was the victim of a BBC supported ploy IMO... I watch QT regularly and have yet to see an audience "loaded" with so many "minority groups" on the show previously...!
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See, this is the type of rubbish we have to put up with. Your ancestors fought to suppress the colonies (America, India, Iran, Iraq, etc.) by imposing British Rule, and they fought to overthrow the monarchy and install Cromwell as an unelected dictator. The fact is that your ancestors fought as directed by some pretty dumb-ass monarchs, who were not elected, to do their whims. They fought through a sense of duty to their country, something we can now only do by voting - how many posters here feel any sense of duty to their country?
Another fact is that the recent wars (to which I assume you refer) were not won by our fathers and grandfathers. They were won by the might of the Americans (WW1) and the Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR) (WW2). Without the Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, Czechs, etc. we might be speaking German, or still be at War!
In the 50s and 60s the UK Government actively encouraged any number of people from Asia and the Caribbean to come to the UK to do work your ancestors wouldn't do - the very people your ancestors welcomed with open arms you are now slagging off in the pub. If you hold your ancestors in such high esteem, why not behave as they did and welcome others and live with them.
We are living with the unintended consequences of what our ancestors did in both war and peace. Their decisions, that were expedient at the time, are what we are living with now. And, in order to rectify that situation, we have decided not to vote out idiots at the first opportunity - be they councillors (40% voter turnout in local elections) or Parliamentarians (60% turn out in National elections. Remember that when telling us how high and mighty our ancestors were - oh, white Anglo-Saxon ancestors in the main!!
Stop moaning and dashing to repeat crap you've heard on TV or the radio. As George Santayana said (my emphasis in red)...
"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. In the first stage of life the mind is frivolous and easily distracted, it misses progress by failing in consecutiveness and persistence.
This is the condition of children and barbarians, in which instinct has learned nothing from experience."
That's what Nick Griffin is, a child or barbarisn, and will remain. History tells us that such views will not prevail, as Oswald Mosely proved in the 1930s, and our 'glorious' ancestors proved too.
Sound off all you like, it's farting against thunder. But just imagine the look on every Labour and Tory MPs' face if we all voted for someone else, and they were mostly out of work? Priceless!!