Thanks. I'm building my XX4WE today and tomorrow.

Might get to paint them both this weekend, too (see avatar).
I ran UBB for years on a couple of my sites, and outgrew the capabilities (and CGI page writing kills your server). I was looking for a new substitue, and phpBB looked nice (FREE is always good), and I tested it on a old school mountain bike forums I built. After 6 months, I hated the interface and admin capabilites so much, I ported the whole forum to vBulletin as well as the rest of my sites. ApexSpeed.com is the largest site I run using vBulletin and it's GREAT software. There is even a porting script that you can get on the Vbulletin forums to take this site, punch a few keys and it will port the whole forum over to the new version of vB. I think it took me a couple of hours and some time to re-configure the look and feel, but it was worth a Saturday afternoon to get away from phpBB. I found out why its free.