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Old 15-04-2009
Darren Boyle Darren Boyle is offline
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Originally Posted by Wacker 2 View Post
Totally agree... I've had many problems and although I have now got all the hot up parts that the majority of people use, I still do not have a car that handles particularly great. I now have not got a job and so future costs going forward are going to be tight... I'm just wondering what parts they are going to bring out next.

The one thing that seems to be winding me up the most these days, is that although the X6 kit was alot cheaper than the S2 to buy initially - the S2 did not need a whole world of extra hop up parts to make it competitive and efficient. By the time you have all the extra X6 or X6squared extras the total cost would be about the same as the S2 anyway. So I have a car that doesn't feel great (certainly nowhere near as good as my mates S2) and an empty pocket!!!

Just very frustrating and so I agree entirely with what grelland said above!!!
Have you ran the set up from Oswestry of Ellis's in its entirity, since this setup is both fast and easy to drive on most surfaces and is always a good starting point. I have yet to find anyone who cannot get the car to go quick with this setup as a guide or starting point and be able to drive it easily too.

My next point would really be to address one that has already been made in this thread, yes we do make hop ups (as does EVERY other manufacturer, including AC too) there is nothing wrong with tuning parts they are there so everyone can make their car handle to their own tastes on their own type of curcuit. I will choose to ignore the front of our car (K Factory tower etc, since everything on there is the same as any B4 or S2 as well).

What hop ups are essential then for the rear, well E-Speed hangers, yes, (used a LOT here in the UK), E-Speed T-piece (not essential but most people like it for strength and looks) long axles (essential for tracks requiring lots of droop, not required for flatter or smooth tracks). Then yes you can fit a coloured motor plate (carbon if you wish), carbon squat shims, alloy hubs, battery bar brace plus more, but NONE are needed ALL are really just luxuries which you do not HAVE to have.

So what we are left with is axles and E-Speed hangers for our UK tracks, which if we are totally honest are not too costly when added together, before we all blow the "essential" costs out of all proportion......

You only have to look at the range of parts available for the B4, there are parts from RPM, K-Factory, Fastrax, Rayspeed, Suzuki, TIR, Trinity, Ghea, XXX Main plus of course an abundance from AE's own Factory Team range too, (far more optional parts than for the X6 to fit the B4) but just because they are made does not mean they all have to be used, same applies for our range of "optional" parts too.

A prime example of a good car with just the essentials is often Ellis's own, he doesnt use unjustified bling, he rarely uses parts just for looks, study many of the pictures of his national winning car and you may be surprised to see just how plain it actually is, and he seems pretty quick with it....
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