thanks guys - I'd call that a succesfull thread

Food for thought by the NE Consortium when they get together to sort this years venues.
Apologies to BigAir - didn't see the smiley at the end of your post, my eye caught on the tongue sticking out

and yes I'll keep any magasines out of the way so you can't find them
Adam, enjoyed your last post (and the others) - thanks for the information - and particularly your comment "It isn't bickering, it's airing of opinions, which is what forums are for, as well as writing utter b####ks and winding up your mates!" which is what this has been - airing of opinions.