[Darren Boyle]

Yes, I am the Howard that wanted to race at your club yesterday evening. I've only had my car running for a 9 months, (after a 25 year break) and enjoyed the race meetings I've been to. Your club is a family event with plenty of children and not the place to had a heated discussion on lipo qualification. It was easier to leave and not ruin the atmosphere for others.

There would of been no heated discussion, the atmosphere would of been fine, simply, we have RULES and they need to be stuck to. We have allowed LIPO since the BRCA AGM and have even produced a list "long one at that" of what can be used "currently". As I have said, saddles WILL be added to the list and allowed once we know what direction the BRCA are going, until then they are not.

I've run at plenty of other clubs in the last few weeks with no problems - Workshop and Stotfold - both excellent venues. If the hobby is not enjoyable there is not point doing it. Lipos are clearly the way forward for the sport.

I agree 100% both venues are superb and LIPO are most definatly the way forward and we do need to enjoy our hobby also.

I recognise that your livelihood depends on selling items from your shop and running the club is a necessary part of your business.

It is not, it is just somthing that we do, not every shop runs a club, but we like to be involved, some do, some dont.

That is why I didn't 'name and shame'. You brought your name to this thread.

There is nothing to SHAME us with, we indeed are not ashamed of any decsion we have made and stood by, hence why I brought our name to the thread.

And you are allowed run the club in any way you wish

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Yes but we dont, the rules are ALL made by the membership, this LIPO rule has all been made by the majority of the members, not me alone.

As for 'sour grapes' - it certainly is but this is your loss not mine

. How is it our loss, you havnt purchaed from us and you dont race with us already, what are we losing?? You have just chosen to narrow your own options for race venues, and admitted because of sour grapes......

The parts I purchased last night, I need for Stotford this Sunday. (The Associated front wheels don't fit by the way. The hex is too deep and the rim rubs the hub thanks for the advice.)

Maybe you need to run the AE hexs, I have not sold you what you run, hence I dont know what you own and have access to. I know of several racers who happily use B44 fitting wheels on the front of a 501X

There are plenty of other clubs and shops that don't have a 'run what your purchased here' mentality

Yes there are many, including US. We have a membership of over 60, over half of these have cars and equipemnt purchased elsewhere, we have no problem with that, that is their choice, but we dont expect them to moan at us if somthing is wrong if we have not supplied it. Once more you totally miss the point, we ourselves sell sadlle pack LIPO's, they ARE NOT ON OUR CLUB LIST (even though we sell them). It is saddle LIPO that is banned at present not where you got them!!!

I think you need to assess your ideas and appreciate that all "I" did last night was stick to the rules that "OUR" club runs to, if you have not observed these and wonder in from the blue ignorant of them that is not our fault. I suggested last night to get you out of a whole to ask to "borrow" some NIMH's and yet the racer pitting right next to you was more than prepared to lend you some but was not even asked (Alan). You have to accept rules somtimes and try to help yourself and not place the blame elsewhere.