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Old 12-10-2008
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The life and deaths bit is cool. The whole CO2 bit makes me angry though, it's such a load of rubbish.

People spend their time making this stuff, and it is all plain ignorance of scientific fact. Even the IPCC can't agree totally whether humans are having an effect on the planet and even though it tends to be a majority nowadays they can't agree if the extent to which is even significant.

CO2 seems to be some magic gas, I can name plenty of others that are more important in the greenhouse effect. Has anyone even mentioned Methane recently? All the Nitrous gasses? Water Vapour?

The whole idea is a bit anthropocentric. In the Jurassic ages CO2 levels in the atmosphere were around 10 times higher then they are now , and life was much much more abundant then it is now. Natural climate change is very dramatic, why do people have to think that humans are doing anything. We are tiny in the grand scheme of things. And the fact that since 1998 the planet has been cooling and the Antarctic ice sheet is the biggest in recorded history tend to miss the headlines.

I find it incredibly frustrating. Some of the worlds largest challenges like a cure for Cancer, HIV AIDS, eradicating poverty, finding sustainable energy etc are so much more worthy and time and effort should be spent here and not on this complete myth. We can't fight nature, so we have to accept climate change is natural and will happen. Parts of the sahara desert were once sea beds (hence the salt) and in the middle ages you could grow grape vines and produce wine in Scotland it was so warm... paying green taxes will not change this.

I suppose I am most frustrated as the airline industry (where I work) gets so much stick - yet ironically it's one of the greenest modes of transport. (Media didn't tell you that did they?) With planes like the A380 doing something like 115 miles per gallon per passenger, and future aircraft promising even more, what else could people want? http://www.glypo.com/general/aivenviro.pdf for a report I wrote just last year when I was at Uni.

Sorry rant over. Great link minus the CO2 bit
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