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Originally Posted by niggs98
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There's no need to change the Law, just to enforce it. not enough coppers, too many Laws - more coppers would balance it up!
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Originally Posted by Nige55
I really didn't want to read this thread, it just highlights the messed up state of affairs that I didn't want to move back to. I do want to move back, but it really saddens me how things are now. My parents live in a cottage, a few years ago local evil kids decided to set fire to the animals surrounding their neighbours cottage (goats, chickens etc). They all burned alive. Made me wanna get the next flight back and rip these' kids heads off, and I ain't a violent person ! What I want to ask is (this is a REALLY important question for my piece of mind), - what can we do to deter these twats legally ? - without physical contact ? (with more and more knives around). Is it illegal to threaten them with a can of deodorant and a lighter ? They are not illegal after all. Sorry for my naive question, I've been away a long time and I don't know the 'rules' these days.
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IF you want to deter them in the short term, regularly ringing the Police every time something happens, and then writing to the Chief Constable and the local paper if it doesn't usually gets a response. Most of all, in the long term, make sure you vote. Vote for anyone, it doesn't matter who. Tell every canvasser at every Election that you will only be voting for someone who quadruples the Police Constables on the beat.
The real problem is that people don't vote. If everyone who didn't vote voted for the same party, they would be the Government. This Government was elected on 36% of the 63% of people who voted - feck all! I'll get the usual "they're all a bunch of tossers, don't bother voting" replies, but whatever they are they spend our taxes. If you want your taxes spent differently, for God's sake get out and vote.
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Originally Posted by Tom3012
I'm only 18 but I do know where your all coming from! I hate what these 'people' do, it gives all people of my age, and there abouts, a really bad reputation. The looks I get sometimes of some people is almost, upsetting? Just because I'm young they tarnish us all with the same brush. To be totally honest, I can't wait to be older!
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Well said! It is good to remember that 19m of the 60m of us are aged from 5 to 29, and we are talking about a handful. Despite that fact that not enough are caught, for 60m people there are only 80,000 in jail. Crime isn't nice, the people who do it are ***%&^O(£)£s, but overall, there's more good than bad.
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Originally Posted by telboy
The worst thing we ever did was spit on the pavement!...and we'd get bollocked for doing that by some old codger if we were caught!
Police do shit all. One of my relatives was killed a couple of year back after some knob was causing trouble. The police were watching him but 'couldn't do anything until he caused actual damage', so after winding the police up through ranting and raving, telling them to arrest him (in a cocky manor), he then walked round the corner and thumped the first person he met....which was my relative, he then fell and hit his head on the kerb....end of story.
If the police had the power to just sort him out when he was pratting about, it wouldn't have happened.
But as many have said. Discipline at an early age is no longer there.
If we messed around at school, we had the blackboard rubber thrown at our heads!
Our neighbour told us the other day that some Chav was having a good old stare though my car window at the stereo, so I sat up untill about 3 waiting for something to happen, cos if it did, I was going to go out and 'greet him'. I had one knicked before and it wasn't the cost of the stereo that was the problem, as it was only a basic ford one. but it was the cost of replacing the door skin after they ripped the lock out to get in...about £300, for £50 stereo.
They need to bring punishment and public floggin back!
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I hope that if a copper did any of that to your child, even if it was by mistake, you'd not sue. They stand back because there is another type of a******e - the one's who will sue at the drop of a hat if they think there is the slightest possibility that they can screw us (our taxes pay the compensation) over for a big payout. IMHO, these people are as bad as the scum who nicked my daughter's bike. Take responsibility, not legal action.