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deano261 13-02-2012 08:20 PM

diy carbon fibre
 
I'm thinking of getting a diy carbon fibre kit and was wondering do you need to make your own moulds or can you use the existing parts to make it. Also where is the best placeto get a kit

-bendeman13- 13-02-2012 08:32 PM

may i ask what diy means sory im not englisch

Tom3012 13-02-2012 08:37 PM

What are you planning on making? Moulds are you usually the better option id imagine, but ive never tried.... Wouldnt mind having a go though :thumbsup:

Gayo 13-02-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -bendeman13- (Post 620471)
may i ask what diy means sory im not englisch

DIY = do it yourself ;)

kaylon 13-02-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by -bendeman13- (Post 620471)
may i ask what diy means sory im not englisch

DIY: Do it Yourself ...

As far as CF goes 'normal parts' are not usually moulded. They are cut from Sheet. Shock Towers, braces, chassis etc all are cut mainly. So you would make up some sheet, layer upon layer.

Moulding parts...well that's very dependent on the part, not many parts on any car are moulded CF, Usually Graphite re-enforced injection moulded ABS resin.

And to do moulding you need a mould yes, original parts could be used as positives to create the moulds. But the mould material would be dependant on the material you are using. Injection moulding as a rule requires Alloy or metal molds, alloy parts you could use casting sand and CF would probably work with 2 part pour mix resin, and then you apply layer after layer in the mould.

J

deano261 13-02-2012 09:42 PM

i was thinking of maybe making CF chassis and arms and maybe thinking of making a CF wing as im always going through wings

stumpiey 14-02-2012 02:34 AM

get a LMR wing, very strong, iv crash tested mine loads:woot:
http://www.modelcarsreading.com/prod...ategory_id=586

kaylon 14-02-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by deano261 (Post 620513)
i was thinking of maybe making CF chassis and arms and maybe thinking of making a CF wing as im always going through wings

A CF chassis yes :) cut from sheet and mill\dremel supporting parts. I'd not make arms from CF as you want a little flex. And remember moulding CF is not like moulding plastic, it's not a liquid, it's a weave of fiber and resin layers that you press and form just like fiber glass. You don't pour it.

Use material where it's most suited. a CF wing on an RC car is a waste of money and you'll find it so thin that it would just snap. CF has little to no flex that's why it makes good Towers and chassis but would make terrible arms and wings as it would be stiff and brittle, I'd put money on a wing disintegrating during the first drive.

Hope that helps

J

deano261 14-02-2012 11:55 AM

cheers guys. This is why i love this site everyone is so helpful and never condescending.

So what wings are the strongest apart from the Electra one already mentioned

Robbiejuk 14-02-2012 12:35 PM

I always found the hotbodies wings to be very strong if you can still get them.

Dave Dodd 14-02-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbiejuk (Post 620743)
I always found the hotbodies wings to be very strong if you can still get them.

Yes you can m8, got both sizes in stock :thumbsup:

kaylon 14-02-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by deano261 (Post 620732)
cheers guys. This is why i love this site everyone is so helpful and never condescending.

So what wings are the strongest apart from the Electra one already mentioned

I'm using the Ansmann Smacker Solid Wing, it's 2mm ABS and is indestructible, acts like a roll cage for my X-Pro :). It comes in White, Black, Blue and Green. You will need to make some new mount holes..but that's it.

J

terry.sc 14-02-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kaylon (Post 620679)
Use material where it's most suited. a CF wing on an RC car is a waste of money and you'll find it so thin that it would just snap. CF has little to no flex that's why it makes good Towers and chassis but would make terrible arms and wings as it would be stiff and brittle, I'd put money on a wing disintegrating during the first drive.

In the old days you could buy carbon fibre wings, these were made from prepreg in an autoclave though, not just laying carbon on a mould and brushing on resin. They were pretty tough. They certainly didn't disintegrate during the first drive, after all carbon shock towers don't disintegrate either. Didn't get damaged at all if you were using them on a Schumacher.

The downside is that although pretty light they were much heavier than lexan wings, and the last thing you want is a lot of weight high up.


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